The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

MaxB

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13:04:06 on Tue, 12 Feb 2008, MaxB remarked:
The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

I wonder why their auditors don't make a point of examining all multiple
claims for the same person, above some reasonable threshold (a couple of
dozen a year, perhaps).
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Roland Perry

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13:04:06 on Tue, 12 Feb 2008, MaxB remarked:
The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

I wonder why their auditors don't make a point of examining all multiple
claims for the same person, above some reasonable threshold (a couple of
dozen a year, perhaps).

You would hope they are doing, after the first high profile fraud revealed
(in the courts) a few weeks ago. Presumably these cases take quite a few
months to come to trial?

Paul S

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13:04:06 on Tue, 12 Feb 2008, MaxB remarked:
The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

I wonder why their auditors don't make a point of examining all multiple
claims for the same person, above some reasonable threshold (a couple of
dozen a year, perhaps).

You would hope they are doing, after the first high profile fraud revealed
(in the courts) a few weeks ago. Presumably these cases take quite a few
months to come to trial?

Paul S
So they would audit everybody claiming over about £50 a year. And how much
does each audit cost. Hardly cost effective, why not spend the money
stopping the bloody delys in the first place.

Kevin

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Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Zen83237 remarked:
I wonder why their auditors don't make a point of examining all multiple
claims for the same person, above some reasonable threshold (a couple of
dozen a year, perhaps).

You would hope they are doing, after the first high profile fraud revealed
(in the courts) a few weeks ago. Presumably these cases take quite a few
months to come to trial?

So they would audit everybody claiming over about £50 a year.

Not £50, people making large numbers of claims. They have the figures,
so perhaps just the 1% of "top claimants".

And how much does each audit cost.

All it involves is getting a list of names, addresses and claims, sorted
by the number of claims. Then skim off the top (say) 1%.

Hardly cost effective, why not spend the money stopping the bloody
delys in the first place.

Surely you can agree that having a close look at anyone claiming more
than 365 times a year would be a good thing?
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Roland Perry

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In message , at 18:30:10 on Wed,
13 Feb 2008, Zen83237 remarked:
I wonder why their auditors don't make a point of examining all
multiple
claims for the same person, above some reasonable threshold (a couple
of
dozen a year, perhaps).

You would hope they are doing, after the first high profile fraud
revealed
(in the courts) a few weeks ago. Presumably these cases take quite a few
months to come to trial?

So they would audit everybody claiming over about £50 a year.

Not £50, people making large numbers of claims. They have the figures, so
perhaps just the 1% of "top claimants".

And how much does each audit cost.

All it involves is getting a list of names, addresses and claims, sorted
by the number of claims. Then skim off the top (say) 1%.

Hardly cost effective, why not spend the money stopping the bloody delys
in the first place.

Surely you can agree that having a close look at anyone claiming more than
365 times a year would be a good thing?
--
Roland Perry

But making 365 claims a year would be in excess of £1000, not what was
suggested.

Kevin

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:04:06 -0800 (PST), MaxB
wrote:

The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

Thanks for posting this - reminded me that I needed to claim for my
journey today

This should be an interesting test of the system, as it happens...

On 13 Feb, 02:57, James Farrar wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:04:06 -0800 (PST), MaxB
wrote:

The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

Thanks for posting this - reminded me that I needed to claim for my
journey today

This should be an interesting test of the system, as it happens...

No problem. As a matter of interest (as I a London council tax payer!)
how many claims have you made?

MaxB

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:03:54 -0800 (PST), MaxB
wrote:

On 13 Feb, 02:57, James Farrar wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:04:06 -0800 (PST), MaxB
wrote:

The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

Thanks for posting this - reminded me that I needed to claim for my
journey today

This should be an interesting test of the system, as it happens...

No problem. As a matter of interest (as I a London council tax payer!)
how many claims have you made?

Four last year, this is the third so far this year. If my memory is
accurate!

(The year in question starts on 18th December).

On Feb 12, 9:04 pm, MaxB wrote:
The case reported on the BBC about false tube delay refunds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7241264.stm

says the offender had made 2000 claims. One wonders how many other
people are making a good living out of this facility.

"He was eventually caught when he complained to London Underground's
managing director Tim O'Toole about the speed of the refunds."

LOROL.