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On 29 Feb, 10:36, Bill Hayles wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),

(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

My 1971 Q stock photo shows the second platform out of use even then.

The second platform closed in 1928.
The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street
ceased in 1966.

Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith.

I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock
days.

I am not old enough to remember 1928. I wonder how soon after 1966?
I must have just been there very briefly in the 1970s, seen the space
through a crowd and assumed that there was a track in the other
platform.

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"Bill Hayles" wrote in message
...

The second platform closed in 1928.
The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street
ceased in 1966.

Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith.

I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock
days.


Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was in off
hours?

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On 29 Feb, 11:37, wrote:

"Bill Hayles" wrote:

The second platform closed in 1928.
The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool Street
ceased in 1966.

Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith.

I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock
days.

Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was in off
hours?


Yes, it certainly was! I'll leave others to fill in the details, but
freight was carried on the East London line and on other subsurface
lines. Back in years past the subsurface lines had many more links to
the mainline railways, and there was far less of a clear distinction
between Underground and mainline railways.

Freight trains travelling via the East London line used to run on in
to a platform at Liverpool Street station before being reversed out to
travel along the main lines (or vice versa).

Freight operations certainly weren't planned for peak hours, though I
have read a story somewhere of disgruntled morning commuters being
less than pleased to find a steam-drawn goods train trundling through
the platforms instead of the (clean, electric) train they wanted to
catch to work.

It should be noted that it is incredibly unlikely that the new ELLX
will carry any freight from south to north London - the new incline
that the line will take up from north of Whitechapel, where the line
is in a cutting, to south of Shoreditch High Street station, where the
line will be sat atop a viaduct, will be very steep and is likely in
itself to rule out freight train operations. That said, AIUI at some
point over the next couple of years there will be works trains (for
construction materials) that will make this journey, though that's
still a little way of yet.

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Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was in off
hours?

As Mizter T said, it was - but really only on the sub-surface lines.
Freight certainly passed over the District lines, since there were
Midland Railway goods depots at Kensington High Street and at West
Kensington (accessed from an east-facing spur at West Kensington). The
Met also carried freight right into the city - it had its own good yard
at Vine Street, just north of Farringdon.

The only case of a tube line carrying any sort of freight that I can
think of is the Central London Railway (now the central line), which
operated a "Lightning Parcel Express" service in its early days -
packages were carried on the tube and then delivered to individual
addresses by delivery boys on tricycles with a large box on the front.
--
Paul Terry

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On 29 Feb, 19:29, Paul Terry wrote:
it was

Does freight stlll use the Harrow to Amersham section of the Chiltern/
Metropolitan Line?

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http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

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"Bill Hayles" wrote in message
...

The second platform closed in 1928.
The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool
Street ceased in 1966.

Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith.

I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F"
stock days.

Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was
in off hours?

To add the comments of others, I clearly remember seeing occasional
freights passing through Earl's Court on my way home from school in the
lat 50s/early 60s. Presumably return movements from High St Ken.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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(MIG) wrote:

On 29 Feb, 10:36, Bill Hayles wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),

(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

My 1971 Q stock photo shows the second platform out of use even
then.

The second platform closed in 1928.
The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool
Street ceased in 1966.

Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith.

I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F"
stock days.

I am not old enough to remember 1928. I wonder how soon after 1966?
I must have just been there very briefly in the 1970s, seen the space
through a crowd and assumed that there was a track in the other
platform.

You could have thought there was track if you didn't see the ground. The
other platform didn't look that derelict.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Construction News Photograph - Where is it?
 

In article ,
(Bill Hayles) wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

My 1971 Q stock photo shows the second platform out of use even then.

The second platform closed in 1928.
The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool
Street ceased in 1966.

Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith.

I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F" stock
days.

Unfortunately I didn't take pictures when I visited the ELL in F stock
days. :-(

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:


Unfortunately I didn't take pictures when I visited the ELL in F stock
days. :-(

Alas, neither did I, nor of the loco change at Rickmansworth. Perhaps
we were just too young to realise that we were observing history.



--
Bill Hayles

http://billnot.com

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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
() wrote:

"Bill Hayles" wrote in message
...

The second platform closed in 1928.
The track was removed soon after through services to Liverpool
Street ceased in 1966.

Source: "East London Line" by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith.

I can remember the track being used by through freight in "F"
stock days.

Was freight ever carried on the London Underground, even if it was
in off hours?

To add the comments of others, I clearly remember seeing occasional
freights passing through Earl's Court on my way home from school in the
lat 50s/early 60s. Presumably return movements from High St Ken.

I have to confess I only ever saw them on the ELL and on the Met main
line.

It must have been quite a sight to see a freight trundle through Earl's
Court.



--
Bill Hayles

http://billnot.com