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Edward Cowling London UK March 10th 08 10:35 AM

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I've got to get to that void in the London Transport system called
Battersea tomorrow. I'm travelling in from North London, so I can grab
the Piccadilly or Victoria lines, but no tube stations seem within miles
of it.

Is there a decent bus connection with any tube station ?

I need to get to Battersea Bridge Road in SW11

--
Edward Cowling "Must go - Another Year Another Sheet Change !"


Paul March 10th 08 11:07 AM

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Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

I've got to get to that void in the London Transport system called
Battersea tomorrow.


Well, apart from the busiest train station in the UK :-) But there's no
tube stations, no.

I'm travelling in from North London, so I can grab
the Piccadilly or Victoria lines, but no tube stations seem within miles
of it.


Is there a decent bus connection with any tube station ?

I need to get to Battersea Bridge Road in SW11


How about: Victoria line to Vauxhall. Short overground train to Clapham
Junction and then jump on a bus from there? There's several routes that
go to Battersea Bridge Road.

--
Paul

John Rowland March 10th 08 12:06 PM

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Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
I've got to get to that void in the London Transport system called
Battersea tomorrow. I'm travelling in from North London, so I can grab
the Piccadilly or Victoria lines, but no tube stations seem within
miles of it.

Is there a decent bus connection with any tube station ?

I need to get to Battersea Bridge Road in SW11


As opposed to one of the other Battersea Bridge Roads? ;-)

Bus 49 or 345 from stop G in Thurloe St outside South Ken.



Edward Cowling London UK March 10th 08 12:25 PM

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In message , John Rowland
writes
Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
I've got to get to that void in the London Transport system called
Battersea tomorrow. I'm travelling in from North London, so I can grab
the Piccadilly or Victoria lines, but no tube stations seem within
miles of it.

Is there a decent bus connection with any tube station ?

I need to get to Battersea Bridge Road in SW11


As opposed to one of the other Battersea Bridge Roads? ;-)

Bus 49 or 345 from stop G in Thurloe St outside South Ken.


Ahh thanks. I was going to head for South Ken and black cab it, but
that's an arm and a leg these days.

--
Edward Cowling "Must go - Another Year Another Sheet Change !"


John Rowland March 10th 08 01:44 PM

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Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

Ahh thanks. I was going to head for South Ken and black cab it, but
that's an arm and a leg these days.


Weekdays before 8pm, taxis cost about 2 quid to climb in plus 2 quid a mile.
So 6 or 7 quid from South Ken, or 4 or 5 quid from Clapham Junction. If it's
the evening rush hour, the trip from South Ken might cost more.




Mizter T March 12th 08 09:38 AM

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On 10 Mar, 12:07, Paul wrote:

Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

I've got to get to that void in the London Transport system called
Battersea tomorrow.


Well, apart from the busiest train station in the UK :-) But there's no
tube stations, no.


For those who are baffled by this, Clapham Junction is of course
actually in Battersea, not Clapham!


I'm travelling in from North London, so I can grab


the Piccadilly or Victoria lines, but no tube stations seem within miles
of it.
Is there a decent bus connection with any tube station ?


I need to get to Battersea Bridge Road in SW11


How about: Victoria line to Vauxhall. Short overground train to Clapham
Junction and then jump on a bus from there? There's several routes that
go to Battersea Bridge Road.


Or the Victoria line to Victoria, then a mainline train from Victoria
to Clapham Junction (there are trains every 5 minutes).

Alternatively take the Victoria line to Vauxhall, then the 344 bus to
the bottom of Battersea Bridge Road - the bus goes along east-west
Battersea Park Road, then a short walk up the road (or jump on a
passing bus). The journey on the 344 from Vauxhall will take less than
15 minutes off-peak, and the service runs frequently.

Battersea really isn't that hard to get to!

Edward Cowling London UK March 12th 08 11:33 AM

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In message
,
Mizter T writes
passing bus). The journey on the 344 from Vauxhall will take less than
15 minutes off-peak, and the service runs frequently.

Battersea really isn't that hard to get to!


It's the haven of the cheap office crowd. Courier companies and
Telesales, and all because it's transport blighted. Put a decent tube
link in and the area would blossom. In the ends it took me 2 hours to
get from Palmers Green to Battersea Bridge. I may have been unlucky,
but no one is going to do that twice a day out of choice.

--
Edward Cowling "Must go - Another Year Another Sheet Change !"


Paul Terry March 12th 08 12:43 PM

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In message , Edward Cowling
London UK writes

Put a decent tube link in and the area would blossom.


Crikey ... the average house price in Battersea is already over 750,000
UKP - just think would a tube would do for the estate agents!

--
Paul Terry

Edward Cowling London UK March 12th 08 01:28 PM

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In message , Paul Terry
writes
In message , Edward Cowling
London UK writes

Put a decent tube link in and the area would blossom.


Crikey ... the average house price in Battersea is already over 750,000
UKP - just think would a tube would do for the estate agents!


Give over ! There are boarded up shops & buildings just on the South
Side of Battersea Bridge.

Mind you Lord Archer lives in a tower block in SE11 which must be worth
several million, but I'm darned if I'd want to live in SE11 :-)

--
Edward Cowling "Must go - Another Year Another Sheet Change !"


Paul Terry March 12th 08 04:28 PM

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In message , Edward Cowling
London UK writes

In message , Paul Terry
writes


Crikey ... the average house price in Battersea is already over
750,000 UKP - just think would a tube would do for the estate agents!


Give over !


No kidding. And that's the average for all properties. The average for
detached houses is now over one million. See sites such as:

http://www.home.co.uk/guides/sold_ho...01& year=2008

There are boarded up shops & buildings just on the South Side of
Battersea Bridge.


Yes, but Battersea is a good deal more than just Battersea Bridge Road -
the new riverside properties are very expensive, as are the Victorian
houses inhabited by the likes of Ian Hislop, Nick Ross, Jack Dee and
others.

Mind you Lord Archer lives in a tower block in SE11 which must be worth
several million


A good deal more than that, I suspect. There's a small two-bedroom flat
in the same block currently on the market for 3.5 million if you are
interested ...

but I'm darned if I'd want to live in SE11 :-)


Ah, perhaps not then. :)

--
Paul Terry

Edward Cowling London UK March 12th 08 04:58 PM

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In message , Paul Terry
writes
Mind you Lord Archer lives in a tower block in SE11 which must be
worth several million


A good deal more than that, I suspect. There's a small two-bedroom flat
in the same block currently on the market for 3.5 million if you are
interested ...


And live in the same block as Archer & Peter Stringfellow !!

I'd expect a reduction in my council tax :-)

--
Edward Cowling "Must go - Another Year Another Sheet Change !"


Paul Corfield March 12th 08 05:43 PM

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:28:05 +0000, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

Mind you Lord Archer lives in a tower block in SE11 which must be worth
several million, but I'm darned if I'd want to live in SE11 :-)


SW11 surely if you're referring to Battersea?
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

MIG March 12th 08 06:51 PM

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On 12 Mar, 18:43, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:28:05 +0000, Edward Cowling London UK

wrote:
Mind you Lord Archer lives in a tower block in SE11 which must be worth
several million, but I'm darned if I'd want to live in SE11 :-)


SW11 surely if you're referring to Battersea?



I'm away from my maps, but I think they border each other. SE11 would
be based on Kennington I think, alphabetically (SE9 Eltham, SE10
Greenwich, SE11 Kennington, SE12 Lee, SE13 Lewisham ...)

Paul Terry March 12th 08 07:35 PM

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In message , Paul Corfield
writes

SW11 surely if you're referring to Battersea?


Edward was referring to Vauxhall, which comes under SE11 (Kennington
postal area). It is adjacent to SW11 (which is Battersea).

The way that London postal district numbers developed has a strange
logic, largely based on the location of head sorting offices (and the
whims of Anthony Trollope).
--
Paul Terry

Richard J.[_2_] March 12th 08 07:48 PM

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Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message
,
Mizter T writes
passing bus). The journey on the 344 from Vauxhall will take less
than 15 minutes off-peak, and the service runs frequently.

Battersea really isn't that hard to get to!


It's the haven of the cheap office crowd. Courier companies and
Telesales, and all because it's transport blighted. Put a decent tube
link in and the area would blossom. In the ends it took me 2 hours to
get from Palmers Green to Battersea Bridge.


The TfL Journey Planner shows journeys of 67 - 72 minutes at 20-minute
intervals via FCC to Finsbury Park, Piccadily Line to South Kensington, and
the 49 bus from there. What took you so long?
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)



Edward Cowling London UK March 12th 08 10:09 PM

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In message , Richard J.
writes
Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message
,
Mizter T writes
passing bus). The journey on the 344 from Vauxhall will take less
than 15 minutes off-peak, and the service runs frequently.

Battersea really isn't that hard to get to!


It's the haven of the cheap office crowd. Courier companies and
Telesales, and all because it's transport blighted. Put a decent tube
link in and the area would blossom. In the ends it took me 2 hours to
get from Palmers Green to Battersea Bridge.


The TfL Journey Planner shows journeys of 67 - 72 minutes at 20-minute
intervals via FCC to Finsbury Park, Piccadily Line to South Kensington, and
the 49 bus from there. What took you so long?


Real life as opposed to the journey planner :-) Funny enough the time
for the Victoria Line to go from Highbury to Vauxhall is always quoted
as 15 minutes. In 9 months of using the line every day my average time
was around 25 minutes. I think the guy who did the times in Autoroute
used the same Ferrari burning nitro model for TFL :-)

And just don't get me onto the number of times every week that my train
from Highbury to Palmers Green simply stops dead at Finsbury Park, gets
diverted to Kings Cross in the morning, grinds to a halt completely, or
any one of another dozen reasons to make me get home late.

Arrrghhhh !!

--
Edward Cowling "Must go - Another Year Another Sheet Change !"


Peter Heather March 12th 08 10:57 PM

Battersea Bridge Road
 
On 12 Mar, 12:33, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:
In message


Put a decent tube link in and the area would blossom. In the ends it took me 2 hours to
get from Palmers Green to Battersea Bridge. *I may have been unlucky,
but no one is going to do that twice a day out of choice.


That's a typical north London attitude along the lines of the famous
newspaper headline "Fog in Channel. Europe cut off". Those of us in
the civilised part of London (south of the river) find little trouble
in moving around using things called trains and even buses. The almost
complete absence of the underground network isn't any sort of problem
at all. You should get out more ;-)

Peter



Kake L Pugh March 12th 08 10:59 PM

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On 12 Mar, 18:43, Paul Corfield wrote:
SW11 surely if you're referring to Battersea?


MIG wrote:
I'm away from my maps, but I think they border each other. SE11 would
be based on Kennington I think, alphabetically (SE9 Eltham, SE10
Greenwich, SE11 Kennington, SE12 Lee, SE13 Lewisham ...)


SE11 is Kennington, yes, but SW8 (Stockwell) is in between that and Battersea.

Kake


Paul Scott March 13th 08 08:46 AM

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Peter Heather wrote:
On 12 Mar, 12:33, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:
In message


Put a decent tube link in and the area would blossom. In the ends it
took me 2 hours to get from Palmers Green to Battersea Bridge. I may
have been unlucky,
but no one is going to do that twice a day out of choice.


That's a typical north London attitude along the lines of the famous
newspaper headline "Fog in Channel. Europe cut off". Those of us in
the civilised part of London (south of the river) find little trouble
in moving around using things called trains and even buses. The almost
complete absence of the underground network isn't any sort of problem
at all. You should get out more ;-)


Yes - a nice cheap improvement showing transport availability for those
heading south of the river would be to remove all the 'tube maps' and put
ATOC 'London Connections' maps up everywhere.

Quite easy to implement I would have thought...

Paul S



Mr Thant March 13th 08 09:14 AM

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On 13 Mar, 09:46, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Yes - a nice cheap improvement showing transport availability for those
heading south of the river would be to remove all the 'tube maps' and put
ATOC 'London Connections' maps up everywhere.


In fact TfL have such a map already:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...rvices-map.pdf

It at least used to be a common sight in tube stations where a tube
map would otherwise be, but I don't recall noticing it recently.

U

--
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

Michael R N Dolbear March 13th 08 10:59 AM

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Paul Terry wrote

Edward was referring to Vauxhall, which comes under SE11 (Kennington
postal area). It is adjacent to SW11 (which is Battersea).

The way that London postal district numbers developed has a strange
logic, largely based on the location of head sorting offices (and the


whims of Anthony Trollope).


Possibly, but blaming someone who died in 1882 when postal district
numbers didn't become part of postal addresses until 1932 or so seems
more legend than fact.

And indeed SW8 (Nine Elms) lies between SW11 and SE11 so they are not
adjacent.

--
Mike D

Edward Cowling London UK March 13th 08 11:48 AM

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In message
,
Peter Heather writes
On 12 Mar, 12:33, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:
In message


Put a decent tube link in and the area would blossom. In the ends it
took me 2 hours to
get from Palmers Green to Battersea Bridge. *I may have been unlucky,
but no one is going to do that twice a day out of choice.


That's a typical north London attitude along the lines of the famous
newspaper headline "Fog in Channel. Europe cut off". Those of us in
the civilised part of London (south of the river) find little trouble
in moving around using things called trains and even buses. The almost
complete absence of the underground network isn't any sort of problem
at all. You should get out more ;-)


And yes we all know what a thriving area Greenwich, Woolwich & Plumstead
are ! Giro central last time I heard.

--
Edward Cowling "Must go - Another Year Another Sheet Change !"


Paul March 13th 08 12:31 PM

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Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message , Paul Terry
writes
Mind you Lord Archer lives in a tower block in SE11 which must be
worth several million


A good deal more than that, I suspect. There's a small two-bedroom
flat in the same block currently on the market for 3.5 million if you
are interested ...


And live in the same block as Archer & Peter Stringfellow !!

I'd expect a reduction in my council tax :-)


Well Battersea does have the cheapest council tax in the entire country...

--
Paul

Paul Terry March 13th 08 04:33 PM

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In message 01c884ac$c18c5520$LocalHost@default, Michael R N Dolbear
writes

Possibly, but blaming someone who died in 1882 when postal district
numbers didn't become part of postal addresses until 1932 or so seems
more legend than fact.


Well, it was Trollope who got the original Southern postal area removed,
resulting in Vauxhall becoming part of the SE London postal area in
1868. It became SE11 around 1917 and that was retained when postcodes
were introduced in the 1970s. So, while I wouldn't blame Trollope for
the subsequent retention of the anomaly, it all resulted from his
original recommendation.
--
Paul Terry

Mizter T March 13th 08 06:11 PM

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On 12 Mar, 12:33, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

In message
,
Mizter T writes

passing bus). The journey on the 344 from Vauxhall will take less than
15 minutes off-peak, and the service runs frequently.


Battersea really isn't that hard to get to!


It's the haven of the cheap office crowd. Courier companies and
Telesales, and all because it's transport blighted. Put a decent tube
link in and the area would blossom. In the ends it took me 2 hours to
get from Palmers Green to Battersea Bridge. I may have been unlucky,
but no one is going to do that twice a day out of choice.


In the nicest way possible I really think your comments demonstrate
that you don't have a remotely accurate view on the totality of
Battersea.

First off I really think you took the wrong route. Victoria line all
the way to Vauxhall and then on from there by either bus or train
would have been far quicker options, closer to one hour than two. I
note your comments downthread about the Victoria line, but on the
whole I do find that it works well and is a very speedy way to nip
across town.

Others have pointed out the average house price in Battersea.
Battersea is a large area, stretching from Clapham Junction to
Battersea Park. Like many other areas of London there is a
tessellation of grand houses and council estates. Just off Battersea
Bridge Road is the distinctly grotty Ethelburga estate, whilst next to
the river is the offices of Foster and Partners, the architects
practice. Meanwhile the roads south of Battersea Park (such as Prince
of Wales Drive) are very plush, whilst south of Battersea Park Road,
sandwiched between that and the railway line is the rather grim
Doddington Estate.

I think the cheap office crowd you refer to is actually up on Nine
Elms Lane, the main road that leads from Battersea into Vauxhall, and
it's not just cheap offices but is also host to Royal Mail's South
London mail centre, a DHL delivery centre, a waste handling station,
and the government car service. Much of the area - south of Nine Elms
Lane at least - used to be extensive railway yards. Since their demise
some of this land was used for the location of the New Covent Garden
Market.

Again this are along Nine Elms Lane cannot be described as transport
blighted - Vauxhall station is at the north east end, whilst at the
south west there are two stations - Battersea Park (on the line into
Victoria) and Queenstown Road Battersea (on the line into Waterloo),
both of which enjoy very regular services. And there's a regular bus
service that runs up and down it.


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