On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Paul Scott wrote:

Mr Thant wrote:
On 11 Mar, 18:07, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers

Depends which customers - waiting for one person to board
inconveniences all the ones already on the train trying to get
somewhere. Drivers regularly waiting for every last customer is one of
the remaining bad things about bus travel.

In any case, isn't it quicker overall to let passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from
following trains?

No, since the platform is likely to fill up again anyway. On a high
frequency service, getting a few more trains through is going to be
better for capacity than making sure each one picks up every last
passenger.

People will have to get used to mainline trains leaving pax on the platform
as well, because its the only way the planned frequencies on the likes of
Crossrail and Thameslink are going to be achieved...

Random though, but what we need is train doors that swing outward rather
than sliding. It'd clear a space on the platform for people to alight, and
might make that currently utterly infuriating step a little quicker.

tom

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On 12 Mar, 12:43, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Paul Scott wrote:
Mr Thant wrote:
On 11 Mar, 18:07, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
No, they should be unhappy about being told to be rude to their
customers

Depends which customers - waiting for one person to board
inconveniences all the ones already on the train trying to get
somewhere. Drivers regularly waiting for every last customer is one of
the remaining bad things about bus travel.

In any case, isn't it quicker overall to let passengers
board and so make the platfomr clearer for disembarkers from
following trains?

No, since the platform is likely to fill up again anyway. On a high
frequency service, getting a few more trains through is going to be
better for capacity than making sure each one picks up every last
passenger.

People will have to get used to mainline trains leaving pax on the platform
as well, because its the only way the planned frequencies on the likes of
Crossrail and Thameslink are going to be achieved...

Random though, but what we need is train doors that swing outward rather
than sliding. It'd clear a space on the platform for people to alight, and
might make that currently utterly infuriating step a little quicker.

Surely the ideal way to increase capacity is to shut out the
passengers at the station entrances. Letting them on to the platform
and then shutting the doors on them is typical British dithering.

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
...

The District Dave thread on the topic is pretty comprehensive:
http://districtdave.proboards39.com/...d =1186751545

It gives the impression they're automatic and purely informative, and
only installed in places where the driver can't see the other train.

Interesting thread, I didn't know that there were holding lights at Wembley
Park as well.

I'm surprised that there are no holding lights on the Victoria Line,
considering that it was designed specifically to allow easy cross platform
transfers. But I guess the tightness of schedules and the intervals don't
allow for that.