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Rusty wrote:

Tony Hancock did it many years ago in the film The Rebel.
But then, you could open the doors yourself.
He got across two tracks, train in each one.
(Sorry, couldn't find a film clip but I bet it's out there somewhere.)


It was at Bingham Road station.

Could you actually do this, i.e. is the gap between two trains
standing at the platforms wide enough at most stations to be able to
open the doors?

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Jonathan Stott wrote:

If you want to (safely) give it a go - try it at Lewes station where a
single-track bit has been filled in with gravel.


I'm not sure if they've been surfaced over now, I haven't been there
for a dew years, but a short lenght of the filled-in Croydon bays at
Crystal Palace (Low Level) could still be seen between the two parts
of the station still iin use. One of these had a platform on both
sides of the track.
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On 16 Mar, 20:02, Mr Thant
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Changing trains at Finsbury Park the other day, I needed to get from
one northbound island to the other, which are separated by only a
single track. For more than one moment I looked at it and thought "I
could jump that"*. The platforms are plenty wide enough to get a good
run up. So:

i) Would this be trespassing on a railway?
ii) Has anyone done this or seen it done?


Slightly OT. I was once working a boat down the Oxford canal when I
came across a youth who was jumping across the lock rather than
walking to the far gates. About 8ft wide so nearly the same width.

George
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On 17 Mar, 00:20, Ken wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:43:48 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

At Barking District line trains open their doors to platforms on both
sides - my memory is failing me here but I think this is for eastbound
trains only (ICBW).


This is correct. WB District line trains stop on one side of the Up
island platform allowing cross-platform interchange with Up c2c
services. On the other side of the WB District line is the Down Grays
via Rainham line, then the island platform, then the Up Grays line.
(not sure of correct nomenclature but YKWIM).


Are you sure?

IIRC it's the eastbound District Line that stops on one side of the
Down island platform. And on the other side of the EB District Line
is the GOBLin island. There's no cross-platform interchange between
the District and the Grays via Rainham line at all.

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:44:28 +0000, furnessvale wrote

Slightly OT. I was once working a boat down the Oxford canal when I
came across a youth who was jumping across the lock rather than
walking to the far gates. About 8ft wide so nearly the same width.


I have a mill race running past the office in which I'm writing this. It's
about 2m wide with vertical stone walls and a 2m drop to the fast-running
stream below. My cat used to leap over it rather than walk down the garden to
the bridge.

Note the phrase 'used to' :-)



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"Mizter T" wrote in message
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The upcoming arrangement at Stratford for the westbound Central line
will mean the doors will open on both sides, but that only really gets
one onto the island platform for westbound mainline trains to
Liverpool St only. Most passengers wanting these will likely approach
said platform via the stairs.


Isn't the more likely problem pax taking the opposite route though, arriving
off a westbound mainline service using the Central line train as a shortcut
down to the Jubilee...

Paul


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remarked:
I was once working a boat down the Oxford canal when I
came across a youth who was jumping across the lock rather than
walking to the far gates. About 8ft wide so nearly the same width.


I was going to mention jumping narrow locks, which few people seem happy
about attempting. They are 7ft wide (plus a little extra in places), not
8ft, though.
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Stephen Furley wrote:
Rusty wrote:
Tony Hancock did it many years ago in the film The Rebel.
But then, you could open the doors yourself.
He got across two tracks, train in each one.
(Sorry, couldn't find a film clip but I bet it's out there somewhere.)


It was at Bingham Road station.

Could you actually do this, i.e. is the gap between two trains
standing at the platforms wide enough at most stations to be able to
open the doors?


Easily. At least 2 feet as a rule.

I think I've done it, probably in India or Sri Lanka - but the doors
open inwards there.

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On 17 Mar, 00:32, Mr Thant
wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
The upcoming arrangement at Stratford for the westbound Central line
will mean the doors will open on both sides, but that only really gets
one onto the island platform for westbound mainline trains to
Liverpool St only. Most passengers wanting these will likely approach
said platform via the stairs.


But if you arrive from, say Ilford, and want the DLR or the future
overbridge to the shopping centre and the Olympic site/Northern
Ticket Hall, stepping through a Central Line train will save you an
unnecessary trip down to ground level.


Good point, I'd managed to completely overlook that. It'll be
interesting to see how this pans out, there must be concerns about the
potential for extended dwell times at Stratford and knock-on delays.
Though anyone who tries this at rush hour won't be on to a winner
though - they'll likely be stuck on a train to Mile End instead!
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On 16 Mar, 21:08, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Mr Thant" wrote in message

... Changing trains at Finsbury Park the other day, I needed to get from
one northbound island to the other, which are separated by only a
single track. For more than one moment I looked at it and thought "I
could jump that"*. The platforms are plenty wide enough to get a good
run up. So:


i) Would this be trespassing on a railway?
ii) Has anyone done this or seen it done?


Years ago the loop platforms at Sevenoaks had platforms both sides, and were
used to terminate suburban trains. Fast trains to and from the Coast used
the through lines in teh centre. So passengers used to go through the
suburban trains instead of crossing by the bridge. But even if a convenient
train stopped in the middle track at Finsbury Park, I don't suppose the
doors are opened both sides so that you can get through it.


At White City, a train reversing disgorges people onto the westbound
platform (train-right), and then shuts the doors, while the driver is
still at the front of the train. If you are lucky the driver then
opens the doors a few seconds later to the eastbound platform (train-
left) before walking back to the other end. You can therefore move
from Westbound to Eastbound without using the stairs (but not vice
versa)

Standard Practice now seems to be shut the doors, keep both sides shut
unitl the driver makes it down to the other end, then open the doors.

A colleague of mine did successfully jump the middle track at White
City, which seems rather stupid being DC lines (I believe current
should be switched off in stations when a train isn't approaching, not
something I'd risk though)


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