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On 30 Mar, 11:45, Mizter T wrote:
there's never been a bridge there before. I think what it might have
been like when the line went in over Ludgate Hill between Blackfriars


There are pictures of that bridge around online, I saw them once but I
can't remember the site.

diverted under the road into City Thameslink station (which
confusingly on opening was also named St Paul's - well, St Paul's
Thameslink, to be precise).


Personally i think "St Pauls Thameslink" is a much better name since
it locates the station precisely. City Thameslink on the other hand is
pretty vague and could mean anywhere from Holborn to Aldgate.

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there's never been a bridge there before. I think what it might have
been like when the line went in over Ludgate Hill between Blackfriars


There are pictures of that bridge around online, I saw them once but I
can't remember the site.


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Boltar wrote:

Personally i think "St Pauls Thameslink" is a much better name since
it locates the station precisely.


Not really as it's nowhere near the existing St. Paul's tube station. All
the other "Something Thameslink" stations are within interchangable distance
of the other stations of the same name.

City Thameslink on the other hand is
pretty vague and could mean anywhere from Holborn to Aldgate.


Well yes - but the name should be something specific to locate it *and* not
be a name already taken.


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On 30 Mar, 19:15, Boltar wrote:

On 30 Mar, 11:45, Mizter T wrote:

there's never been a bridge there before. I think what it might have
been like when the line went in over Ludgate Hill between Blackfriars


There are pictures of that bridge around online, I saw them once but I
can't remember the site.


I well remember the old bridge - my comments were just referring to
what it would have been like when the bridge *first* went up and it
seems to be is generally agreed spoilt a fine view up the hill of St.
Paul's. The new bridge at Shoreditch just led me to be reminded of
this - but as far as I can think of the new bridge doesn't obscure the
any (equally) 'classic' London views, though it will obstruct the
sight lines of some more modern City buildings (perhaps the iconic
Gherkin in particular).


diverted under the road into City Thameslink station (which
confusingly on opening was also named St Paul's - well, St Paul's
Thameslink, to be precise).


Personally i think "St Pauls Thameslink" is a much better name since
it locates the station precisely. City Thameslink on the other hand is
pretty vague and could mean anywhere from Holborn to Aldgate.


Yes, in isolation it's certainly a good name, but I think it
originally confused people into thinking there was easy interchange
with the Central line at St Paul's station when there isn't. Though
the Central line station isn't really that far away when you use the
northern exit of the Thameslink station.
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On 30 Mar, 19:15, Boltar wrote:

Personally i think "St Pauls Thameslink" is a much better name since
it locates the station precisely. City Thameslink on the other hand is
pretty vague and could mean anywhere from Holborn to Aldgate.


It is, but it's reviving an old name. When first buit the line was
known as the 'City extension', and trains were split into 'City' and
'West End' (Victoria) portions. Long after through passenger services
cesed the indicators on platforms 1 and 2 at Herne Hill would show
'Victoria' or 'City', and the indicators weren't that old. The 'City'
glasses were later replaced by ones which said Blackfriers & Holborn
Viaduct, though I think the latter may have been abbreviated in some
way, I can't remember now. I think the 'City' displays lasted until
about the early '70s.


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TfL are so pleased with their 'new train set' they have set up a webcam to
cover the ELL bridge installation at Shoreditch High St.

Accessible via middle of: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/

Is this just a one off or will they maintain the webcam? Are there any other
webcams of ELLX?

I haven't seen a track schematic, but it appears that the ELLX's route in
that are will be on a rather tight loop; Going north, it will cross the new
bridge, go via the old Broad Street and then the cross the bridge in Hoxton,
right?


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On 29 Mar, 18:05, wrote:
Is this just a one off or will they maintain the webcam? Are there any other
webcams of ELLX?


One off I'd think. The site is overlooked by a building full of web
agencies (where they've put the cam), so it would have been very easy
to arrange this one.

I haven't seen a track schematic, but it appears that the ELLX's route in
that are will be on a rather tight loop; Going north, it will cross the new
bridge, go via the old Broad Street and then the cross the bridge in Hoxton,
right?


Yes. You'll find a map I made in the January archives on my site.

I didn't get there until 8:30am and the bridge was already only two
feet above where it was going, and touched down by 9am.

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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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TfL are so pleased with their 'new train set' they have set up a webcam
to cover the ELL bridge installation at Shoreditch High St.

Accessible via middle of: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/

Is this just a one off or will they maintain the webcam? Are there any
other webcams of ELLX?

I haven't seen a track schematic, but it appears that the ELLX's route in
that are will be on a rather tight loop; Going north, it will cross the
new bridge, go via the old Broad Street and then the cross the bridge in
Hoxton, right?


It is a tight bend, I believe it is one of the main reasons the whole
section through from Shoreditch (ex LU station site) to Dalston is being
installed as slab track using noise reduction measures.

Might help explain the extended timescales and high costs for the
installation I guess...

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TfL are so pleased with their 'new train set' they have set up a webcam to
cover the ELL bridge installation at Shoreditch High St.

Accessible via middle of: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/


I haven't been able to view this at all and I can't work out why. The
thing buffers up and then I just get a small blank screen.

At first I thought the system might have not been working but it's still
like it today. My computer is relatively new and I wonder if I'm
missing an all-important plug-in or something. Anyone have any
thoughts?
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Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , Paul Scott
writes
TfL are so pleased with their 'new train set' they have set up a
webcam to cover the ELL bridge installation at Shoreditch High St.

Accessible via middle of: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/


I haven't been able to view this at all and I can't work out why. The
thing buffers up and then I just get a small blank screen.

At first I thought the system might have not been working but it's
still like it today. My computer is relatively new and I wonder if
I'm missing an all-important plug-in or something. Anyone have any
thoughts?


I've had the same experience this weekend until a few minutes ago, when I
went to the TfL site once more. At first I got the small blank screen like
you, but as I scrolled around the page I noticed that the video had burst
into life.

However, it's NOT A LIVE FEED. It's a repeating short clip of about 30
seconds taken apparently from the cabin of one of the cranes, i.e. very high
up, above the bridge, which itself is still suspended above its resting
place. You can't actually see the latter, as the camera never pans down far
enough. Otherwise it pans around rather too fast and with too narrow a
view.

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