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"Mizter T" wrote

The bridge itself is impressive - it's big, and of a simple,
straightforward but eye pleasing design. Whilst I didn't see a double
decker going under it's quite clear that there's plenty of clearance
for high vehicles.

One of the television news pictures showed someone measuring the height from
the roadway to the bridge.

Whilst it comes as no surprise it must nonetheless be a bit odd for
locals to find this new dominating structure in place, especially as
there's never been a bridge there before. I think what it might have
been like when the line went in over Ludgate Hill between Blackfriars
(though was it not named St Paul's at the time) and Holborn Viaduct -
though that bridge did spoil a great view of St Paul's, which was
reinstated when the bridge was removed and the Thameslink line was
diverted under the road into City Thameslink station (which
confusingly on opening was also named St Paul's - well, St Paul's
Thameslink, to be precise).

St Paul's was renamed Blackfriars in 1937 - the bridge lasted more than
another half century.

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On 30 Mar, 12:08, "Peter Masson" wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote

The bridge itself is impressive - it's big, and of a simple,
straightforward but eye pleasing design. Whilst I didn't see a double
decker going under it's quite clear that there's plenty of clearance
for high vehicles.


One of the television news pictures showed someone measuring the height from
the roadway to the bridge.


A worthwhile precaution - whatever the plans say, it's worth making
sure the reality says the same thing!


Whilst it comes as no surprise it must nonetheless be a bit odd for
locals to find this new dominating structure in place, especially as
there's never been a bridge there before. I think what it might have
been like when the line went in over Ludgate Hill between Blackfriars
(though was it not named St Paul's at the time) and Holborn Viaduct -
though that bridge did spoil a great view of St Paul's, which was
reinstated when the bridge was removed and the Thameslink line was
diverted under the road into City Thameslink station (which
confusingly on opening was also named St Paul's - well, St Paul's
Thameslink, to be precise).


St Paul's was renamed Blackfriars in 1937 - the bridge lasted more than
another half century.


Indeed - I was really thinking about the name of the station when the
bridge was first built. I'm sure I've read of contemporary complaints
that this new fangled (and somewhat unpretty) railway bridge
significantly detracted from the view.
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:45:02 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
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TfL are so pleased with their 'new train set' they have set up a webcam to
cover the ELL bridge installation at Shoreditch High St.

Accessible via middle of: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/


I haven't been able to view this at all and I can't work out why. The
thing buffers up and then I just get a small blank screen.

At first I thought the system might have not been working but it's still
like it today. My computer is relatively new and I wonder if I'm
missing an all-important plug-in or something. Anyone have any
thoughts?
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Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , Paul Scott
writes
TfL are so pleased with their 'new train set' they have set up a
webcam to cover the ELL bridge installation at Shoreditch High St.

Accessible via middle of: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/


I haven't been able to view this at all and I can't work out why. The
thing buffers up and then I just get a small blank screen.

At first I thought the system might have not been working but it's
still like it today. My computer is relatively new and I wonder if
I'm missing an all-important plug-in or something. Anyone have any
thoughts?


I've had the same experience this weekend until a few minutes ago, when I
went to the TfL site once more. At first I got the small blank screen like
you, but as I scrolled around the page I noticed that the video had burst
into life.

However, it's NOT A LIVE FEED. It's a repeating short clip of about 30
seconds taken apparently from the cabin of one of the cranes, i.e. very high
up, above the bridge, which itself is still suspended above its resting
place. You can't actually see the latter, as the camera never pans down far
enough. Otherwise it pans around rather too fast and with too narrow a
view.

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On 30 Mar, 17:00, "Richard J." wrote:
However, it's NOT A LIVE FEED. *It's a repeating short clip of about 30
seconds taken apparently from the cabin of one of the cranes, i.e. very high
up, above the bridge,


Taken from the top of the Tea building I'd think.

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(Richard J.) wrote:

Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , Paul Scott
writes
TfL are so pleased with their 'new train set' they have set up a
webcam to cover the ELL bridge installation at Shoreditch High St.

Accessible via middle of:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/

I haven't been able to view this at all and I can't work out why.
The thing buffers up and then I just get a small blank screen.

At first I thought the system might have not been working but it's
still like it today. My computer is relatively new and I wonder if
I'm missing an all-important plug-in or something. Anyone have any
thoughts?


I've had the same experience this weekend until a few minutes ago,
when I went to the TfL site once more. At first I got the small
blank screen like you, but as I scrolled around the page I noticed
that the video had burst into life.

However, it's NOT A LIVE FEED. It's a repeating short clip of
about 30 seconds taken apparently from the cabin of one of the
cranes, i.e. very high up, above the bridge, which itself is still
suspended above its resting place. You can't actually see the
latter, as the camera never pans down far enough. Otherwise it
pans around rather too fast and with too narrow a view.


I've had the same problem as Ian all weekend. I just get a blank box.

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"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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I've had the same experience this weekend until a few minutes ago,
when I went to the TfL site once more. At first I got the small
blank screen like you, but as I scrolled around the page I noticed
that the video had burst into life.

However, it's NOT A LIVE FEED. It's a repeating short clip of
about 30 seconds taken apparently from the cabin of one of the
cranes, i.e. very high up, above the bridge, which itself is still
suspended above its resting place. You can't actually see the
latter, as the camera never pans down far enough. Otherwise it
pans around rather too fast and with too narrow a view.


I've had the same problem as Ian all weekend. I just get a blank box.


I saw some live stuff once about 0830 yesterday, and then nothing for ages
until the repeating clip appeared for a while yesterday evening. Since then
nothing but a black box. I think the systems just don't cope with the
numbers trying to watch at the same time...

Paul


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On 30 Mar, 11:45, Mizter T wrote:
there's never been a bridge there before. I think what it might have
been like when the line went in over Ludgate Hill between Blackfriars


There are pictures of that bridge around online, I saw them once but I
can't remember the site.

diverted under the road into City Thameslink station (which
confusingly on opening was also named St Paul's - well, St Paul's
Thameslink, to be precise).


Personally i think "St Pauls Thameslink" is a much better name since
it locates the station precisely. City Thameslink on the other hand is
pretty vague and could mean anywhere from Holborn to Aldgate.

B2003



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11:15:28 on Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Boltar remarked:
there's never been a bridge there before. I think what it might have
been like when the line went in over Ludgate Hill between Blackfriars


There are pictures of that bridge around online, I saw them once but I
can't remember the site.


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