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http://www.24dash.com/news/Local_Gov...ailway-station
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Imperial Wharf

Work to build a brand new station in the south of Fulham could start
as early as June 2008 after a multi-million funding package to pay for
it looks likely to be agreed.

If Hammersmith & Fulham Council agrees the multi-million funding
package it will mean that Imperial Wharf Overground Station, which has
been talked about for nearly twenty years, can finally be built.

An H&F Council spokesman said: "It has been a long road to get here
but after 15 years there is finally light at the end of the tunnel for
Imperial Wharf Overground Station.

"Thanks to the collaboration of Hammersmith & Fulham and Kensington &
Chelsea councils we are nearly at the stage when construction can
begin. We promised to work tirelessly to deliver this station and, if
cabinet agrees this funding package, our construction partners can get
on and start building this important station."

The new station, on the west London line, will be built by Imperial
Wharf developers St George and the news will come as a boon to local
people trapped in one of west London's most notorious transport dead
ends.

The area scores just two, out of six, in official 'transport
accessibility' surveys and recent developments like Imperial Wharf,
Chelsea Harbour and Lots Road Power Station are only adding to the
number of people commuting to and from the area on a regular basis.

The council spokesman continues: "Without Imperial Wharf Overground
Station the full development potential of the south of the borough is
unlikely to be realised. More car traffic would be created adding to
local congestion and pollution and those without cars would struggle
to get around easily."

If H&F Council's cabinet agrees the funding package, at a meeting on
April 28, the station will be built just north of the West London Line
railway bridge over the River Thames. The station will allow residents
much easier access to the Underground at West Brompton and the myriad
of rail services at Clapham Junction.

The council spokesman concluded: "We aim to create a Borough of
Opportunity in Hammersmith & Fulham and great transport links are
vital in helping us to achieve this.

"If cabinet agrees the funding package, Imperial Wharf Overground will
be back on track. The next step will be to continue our hardwork with
St George, Transport for London (TfL), Network Rail, neighbouring
boroughs and other partners to get this station up and running as soon
as possible."

Rail experts predict that the station should now be open in 2010
unquote

Couple of questions:
Does the opening of the new WLL stations at Shepherd's Bush and
Imperial Wharf have implications for freight paths along the WLL -
Does it bring forward say the electrification of the Hounslow Loop to
the North London Line at Acton?
How long will the NLL/WLL trains be? Catching the train on Match days
during the run up to the Christmas Shopping Season could be fun.
Do the plans feature narrow platforms obstructed by lamposts - has
somebody checked - if so who?


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http://www.24dash.com/news/Local_Gov...ailway-station
quote
Imperial Wharf

Work to build a brand new station in the south of Fulham could start
as early as June 2008 after a multi-million funding package to pay for
it looks likely to be agreed.


[snipped]

Rail experts predict that the station should now be open in 2010
unquote

Couple of questions:
Does the opening of the new WLL stations at Shepherd's Bush and
Imperial Wharf have implications for freight paths along the WLL -


Should be ok for paths as the station has been allowed for in the
timetabling for a few years now, as has Shepherds Bush. IIRC this is one of
the reasons the WLL trains seem so slow already. Not sure if the eventual
improved WLL service of 4 tph, and the 2 tph Southern (proposed in the SL
RUS) will fit easily though.

Does it bring forward say the electrification of the Hounslow Loop to
the North London Line at Acton?


Is there significant amounts of electric hauled freight at all? I'd be
surprised if there was enough to justify the link you suggest, and suspect
there might be similar difficulties with pathing freight to/from SE London
round that way anyway, as it would still have to get through Clapham
Junction somehow.

How long will the NLL/WLL trains be? Catching the train on Match days
during the run up to the Christmas Shopping Season could be fun.


4 car depending on how soon the various top-up orders for additional cars
and whole trains are delivered. There was a recent story that the new dual
voltage Electrostars for Southern/FCC/Thameslink may have been prioritised
over some of the TfL order though. Platform lengths [such as at Willesden
Junction] prevent longer NLL/WLL trains. It is possible the Southern WJ
service could be lengthened, presume there could be an issue over West
Brompton though - is it 6 or 8 car long?

However - the new cars are declared to hold an amazing 667 people as against
the equally amazing 500 in the existing, as reported to the ORR he
http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd..._appendix7.pdf

Do the plans feature narrow platforms obstructed by lamposts - has
somebody checked - if so who?


Good point - it will be important to get the engineering drawings on line
soon, so that a 'newsgroup design review' can take place - clearly a cost
saving procedure too. Perhaps Imperial Wharf will be a quickly built
modular station. Obviously it will need a very high footbridge to allow pax
to overlook Chelsea Harbour properties...

Can only be short time before TfL pronounce its arrival on the tube map for
the first time - except it was already on the maps in 2005 when it was
originally planned to open...

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On 22 Apr, 08:05, Mwmbwls wrote:

http://www.24dash.com/news/Local_Gov...Hammersmith-an...

(snip)

Do the plans feature narrow platforms obstructed by lamposts - has
somebody checked - if so who?


Ha - good call!
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On 22 Apr, 10:32, "Paul Scott" wrote:

(snip)

Can only be short time before TfL pronounce its arrival on the tube map for
the first time - except it was already on the maps in 2005 when it was
originally planned to open...


But unlike the NLL the West London Line never featured on the Tube map
prior to the TfL takeover.

Has pressure from TfL or the Mayor played any part in these
developments, or has it just been the hard slog of LB Hammersmith &
Fulham, assisted by LB Kensington & Chelsea, that has led to this new
station finally getting the go-ahead?
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"Mizter T" wrote in message
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On 22 Apr, 10:32, "Paul Scott" wrote:

(snip)

Can only be short time before TfL pronounce its arrival on the tube map
for
the first time - except it was already on the maps in 2005 when it was
originally planned to open...


But unlike the NLL the West London Line never featured on the Tube map
prior to the TfL takeover.


I must have seen it on the London COnnections map then...


Has pressure from TfL or the Mayor played any part in these
developments, or has it just been the hard slog of LB Hammersmith &
Fulham, assisted by LB Kensington & Chelsea, that has led to this new
station finally getting the go-ahead?


We can't possibly discuss this - it might affect the election... !!

Paul




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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Mwmbwls wrote:

http://www.24dash.com/news/Local_Gov...ailway-station

An H&F Council spokesman said: "It has been a long road to get here but
after 15 years there is finally light at the end of the tunnel for
Imperial Wharf Overground Station.


But i thought it was going to be on the surface?

Sorry, but somebody had to say it!

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On 22 Apr, 13:04, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Mwmbwls wrote:
http://www.24dash.com/news/Local_Gov...Hammersmith-an...


An H&F Council spokesman said: "It has been a long road to get here but
after 15 years there is finally light at the end of the tunnel for
Imperial Wharf Overground Station.


But i thought it was going to be on the surface?

Sorry, but somebody had to say it!


They did indeed, and so you did - nul point for the LB H&F spokesman
there. Me wonders how Mwmbwls might have phrased it...
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On 22 Apr, 13:04, Tom Anderson wrote:
But i thought it was going to be on the surface?


The old road bridge is narrow enough to count as a tunnel, and the
ticket office is planned to be inside it.

I, also, apologise.

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Mr Thant wrote:
On 22 Apr, 13:04, Tom Anderson wrote:
But i thought it was going to be on the surface?


The old road bridge is narrow enough to count as a tunnel, and the
ticket office is planned to be inside it.

I, also, apologise.


U 2, huh ?

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