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Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
On 7 May, 13:19, Tom Barry wrote:
James wrote: Hmm. I can't honestly say that I've seen an awefully large number of people drinking on public transport, either tube or bus, in the few years that I've been living in the capital. More public transport journeys are pretty short, so there's rarely enough time for even the most light-weighted drinker to become drunk. Ofcourse I've seen plently of trouble on public transport involving drunk people, but they were all already drunk before boarding, something that Boris' new legislation will do nothing to prevent. That's it in a nutshell - I saw someone perfectly well behaved with a can of Magners on the tube into town last Friday, then came home myself on a bus after a birthday night out, obviously without a drop of booze *on* me, but with the Electric Soup lapping the tonsils. *It's not people drinking on the tube you need to worry about, it's people being drunk *and misbehaving*, which I'm sure was already covered by various offences. Look at it this way - if I go to the pub and have ten pints of ******* Strength Lager, then buy a can of Coke, get on the tube and drink it, Boris says I'm fine. *If I go to the pub and have ten Cokes, then buy a can of ******* Strength Lager, get on the tube and drink it, I get collared. *What's the logic in that? *Which case is more likely to lead to a public nuisance? *In which case am I even over the drink drive limit, for heaven's sake? I get the fearful impression Boris is indeed cracking on with his promises and actually believed the rubbish his campaign put out. *This may well be more dangerous than the cynical politician who says what he thinks will get him elected, then bins it and does what he wants when the feet are under the desk. Usually something silly like this would be a way of criminalising something everyone does so that when you want to arrest someone, you've always got an excuse. But in this case, almost no one ever does it anyway, so it doesn't achieve that. Maybe it's just a case of implementing a lot of small and easy policies so that they can claim "we have implemented 99% of our election pledges (by number)". Implementing this policy requires no more effort and commitment than sticking up some notices telling people not to do what they are not doing. |
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Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
On May 7, 3:17*pm, MIG wrote:
On 7 May, 13:19, Tom Barry wrote: James wrote: Hmm. I can't honestly say that I've seen an awefully large number of people drinking on public transport, either tube or bus, in the few years that I've been living in the capital. More public transport journeys are pretty short, so there's rarely enough time for even the most light-weighted drinker to become drunk. Ofcourse I've seen plently of trouble on public transport involving drunk people, but they were all already drunk before boarding, something that Boris' new legislation will do nothing to prevent. That's it in a nutshell - I saw someone perfectly well behaved with a can of Magners on the tube into town last Friday, then came home myself on a bus after a birthday night out, obviously without a drop of booze *on* me, but with the Electric Soup lapping the tonsils. *It's not people drinking on the tube you need to worry about, it's people being drunk *and misbehaving*, which I'm sure was already covered by various offences. Look at it this way - if I go to the pub and have ten pints of ******* Strength Lager, then buy a can of Coke, get on the tube and drink it, Boris says I'm fine. *If I go to the pub and have ten Cokes, then buy a can of ******* Strength Lager, get on the tube and drink it, I get collared. *What's the logic in that? *Which case is more likely to lead to a public nuisance? *In which case am I even over the drink drive limit, for heaven's sake? I get the fearful impression Boris is indeed cracking on with his promises and actually believed the rubbish his campaign put out. *This may well be more dangerous than the cynical politician who says what he thinks will get him elected, then bins it and does what he wants when the feet are under the desk. Usually something silly like this would be a way of criminalising something everyone does so that when you want to arrest someone, you've always got an excuse. But in this case, almost no one ever does it anyway, so it doesn't achieve that. Maybe it's just a case of implementing a lot of small and easy policies so that they can claim "we have implemented 99% of our election pledges (by number)". Implementing this policy requires no more effort and commitment than sticking up some notices telling people not to do what they are not doing.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Id like to say I am a regular bus drinker and this will affect me directly. Rob |
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Johnson unveils Tube alcohol ban
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, Rob writes Id like to say I am a regular bus drinker and this will affect me directly. Interesting - what does a bus taste like? gets coat and exits stage left with a quick "I thank you" -- Mike Hughes A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England |
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