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On Aug 3, 10:17*am, "Brian Watson" wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message . uk, at 23:36:00 on Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Colin Rosenstiel remarked: 07:15 Cambridge London Kings Cross * * 176% 07:45 Cambridge London Kings Cross * * 164% 17:45 London Kings Cross Kings Lynn * *164% Due to be 12 car trains 20 extra carriages are apparently to be supplied to FCC, but not necessarily all for use on the Cambridge line. I'll be interesting to see what sort those are. Displaced from elsewhere, presumably. from May 2009 (at least I think so in the third case). Does that mean their stopping pattern will change? If those are average rather than worst snapshot figures they will still have standing passengers. Why cannot more mainline trains be a little longer (by a carriage or two) and overhang platforms at the back? It happens on various rural routes and seems to present no problem. -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Apart from the issues already described by others, one major problem on certain routes is platform length at the terminus or key intermediate stations. Waterloo is a good example, where many platforms can only handle 8-car trains (and most others only 12-car of 20 m or 10-car of 23 m) and the platforms cannot be lengthened in the country direction owing to signalling issues, or reduction in capacity of flexibility. Other stations similarly constrained include London Bridge (no platform can take more than 12 cars), Liverpool Street, Kings Cross and Cambridge. Glasgow Central also has a number of short platforms. |
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Roland Perry wrote:
The through platform at Cambridge needs extending by about half a carriage (either end) to accommodate 12-car trains in the Thameslink plan [maybe they were originally designed for a loco +10]. But if they are thinking of running 12-car trains then presumably these will be made of 4-cars from Kings Lynn joining the rear of a fresh 8-cars, and the northern half of the platform will therefore be blocked by this operation for five minutes. [And the converse in the evening]. How about building another platform, as at Wolverhampton and Rugby, or is there something sacred about the Cambridge layout? -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9632982.html (43 171 at Stockport, 1985) |
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Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Chris Tolley remarked: The through platform at Cambridge needs extending by about half a carriage (either end) to accommodate 12-car trains in the Thameslink plan [maybe they were originally designed for a loco +10]. But if they are thinking of running 12-car trains then presumably these will be made of 4-cars from Kings Lynn joining the rear of a fresh 8-cars, and the northern half of the platform will therefore be blocked by this operation for five minutes. [And the converse in the evening]. How about building another platform, as at Wolverhampton and Rugby, or is there something sacred about the Cambridge layout? There are apparently plans for an island platform, but that may be more because they want to shift the terminus a couple of miles north to Chesterton Sidings. -- Roland Perry |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message
... How about building another platform, as at Wolverhampton and Rugby, or is there something sacred about the Cambridge layout? There are apparently plans for an island platform, but that may be more because they want to shift the terminus a couple of miles north to Chesterton Sidings. Alternatively there are some people who think the island platform scheme is designed to scupper Chesterton Parkway, as if you get one you won't need the other. But understanding rail conspiracy theories is beyond me, so please don't shoot the messenger! -- Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb Cambridge City Councillor |
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20:54:00 on Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Colin Rosenstiel remarked: There are apparently plans for an island platform, but that may be more because they want to shift the terminus a couple of miles north to Chesterton Sidings. No, it's because of the plan to run 12 cars on West Anglia. While there is or soon will be capacity for through 12 car trains (for a minimal extension of platform 1 and a slightly greater extension of platform 4) there is just no way of terminating the Liverpool St service, which uses platforms 2 and 3 pretty well entirely, if it comprises 12 car trains, without extra platforms. Why can't they terminate at Chesterton Parkway? -- Roland Perry |
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Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as
gently breathed: Glasgow Central also has a number of short platforms. But makes up for it by also having some very long ones - I believe 15 Mk1s + loco will fit in Platform 11, though that might involve the loco and leading coach blocking one (of two) exits from Platform 10. -- - DJ Pyromancer, Black Sheep, Leeds. http://www.sheepish.net Broadband, Dialup, Domains = http://www.wytches.net = The UK's Pagan ISP! http://www.inkubus-sukkubus.co.uk http://www.revival.stormshadow.com |
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