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(Rupert Candy) wrote:

On Aug 31, 11:06*am, Paul Corfield wrote:

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme
of work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW,
NXEA). Any signs of life south of the river?

None in SouthEastern-land yet, more's the pity... SouthEastern appear
to be the only TOC who haven't made any sort of firm commitment to
accepting Oyster, so I have no great hopes of anything happening soon.

That will be because it's being re-franchised as we speak, so presumably
the commitment will be on the new franchisee.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Rupert Candy" wrote

None in SouthEastern-land yet, more's the pity... SouthEastern appear
to be the only TOC who haven't made any sort of firm commitment to
accepting Oyster, so I have no great hopes of anything happening soon.

Southeastern do accept Oyster PAYG, but only between Elephant & Castle,
Blackfriars, and City Thameslink. But they say this on their website ( and
the information seems to be about a year old):

"We do already accept season tickets on Oyster on our network ( within the
valid zones) and while we do not yet accept Oyster Pre-Pay, Southeastern
announced its commitment to work with Transport for London (TfL) to
introduce Oyster Pay-As-You-Go (PAYG) on Southeastern within two years. The
implementation of PAYG will require significant investment and Southeastern
is working with TfL on issues such as the need for additional validators at
stations; the ability to sell and top-up Oyster; and the possibility of
installing automatic ticket gates at some stations. There are still a number
of issues to resolve but we hope to implement Oyster PAYG on Southeastern in
2009. Oyster PAYG will not be cheaper than our usual rail fares."

AIUI this is in line with their franchise obligation.

Peter

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HAN as in Hanwell

Yep.

On 31 Aug, 12:50, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message

...

Four sets of smartcard validators have now been fitted on each side
of
the entrance arches to Kings Cross opposite platforms 1-8. They are
not comissioned yet.

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme of
work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW, NXEA).
Any signs of life south of the river?

I've just seen newly installed supports for smartcard validators as far away
as Woolston (near Southampton). Doubt they'll be reading Oyster though...

Back to the OP in this thread however, these new validators at KX are
presumably just extras, PAYG is already valid there, but I guess validators
were a bit thin on the ground on the direct route from the mainline
platforms to the tube ticket hall?

Paul S

A validator for South West Trains smartcards is installed (but not
functionning) at Windsor & Eton Riverside, not just the support.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1372309255

I don't think there's any indication yet as to what it will work with.

There are also smartcard validators on the Sheffield to Doncaster line
(e.g. at Meadowhall) but that's for South Yorkshire tickets.
http://www.yorcard.com/

Jonathan

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:34:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On 31 Aug, 12:50, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message

...

Four sets of smartcard validators have now been fitted on each side
of
the entrance arches to Kings Cross opposite platforms 1-8. They are
not comissioned yet.

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme of
work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW, NXEA).
Any signs of life south of the river?

I've just seen newly installed supports for smartcard validators as far away
as Woolston (near Southampton). Doubt they'll be reading Oyster though...

Must be the ITSO smartcard franchise commitment.

Back to the OP in this thread however, these new validators at KX are
presumably just extras, PAYG is already valid there, but I guess validators
were a bit thin on the ground on the direct route from the mainline
platforms to the tube ticket hall?

I'd agree they are extras but they provide more flexibility as to
platform use and avoid people being able to say they never saw a
validator at or near the platform their train used.

A validator for South West Trains smartcards is installed (but not
functionning) at Windsor & Eton Riverside, not just the support.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1372309255

I don't think there's any indication yet as to what it will work with.

Very interesting - that looks very like the set up (complete with "hat")
that is used on the New Territories Tram network in Hong Kong. There
they have specific entry and exit validators with different coloured
"hats".

Anyone know who SWT have contracted to implement their ITSO equipment?
ERG did the HK system and that looks very close to the HK design.

I understand Cubic have got the gating work for the franchise commitment
gating stations.
--
Paul C

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme of
work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW, NXEA).
Any signs of life south of the river?


Sanderstead, Riddlesdown and Upper Warlingham on Southern all seem to
have them, and I'm sure I spotted ones at Woldingham and Oxted (out of
zone 6) too, but I'm not sure.

On 31 Aug, 18:49, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:34:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 31 Aug, 12:50, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message

. ..

Four sets of smartcard validators have now been fitted on each side
of
the entrance arches to Kings Cross opposite platforms 1-8. They are
not comissioned yet.

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme of
work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW, NXEA)..
Any signs of life south of the river?

I've just seen newly installed supports for smartcard validators as far away
as Woolston (near Southampton). Doubt they'll be reading Oyster though....

Must be the ITSO smartcard franchise commitment.

Back to the OP in this thread however, these new validators at KX are
presumably just extras, PAYG is already valid there, but I guess validators
were a bit thin on the ground on the direct route from the mainline
platforms to the tube ticket hall?

I'd agree they are extras but they provide more flexibility as to
platform use and avoid people being able to say they never saw a
validator at or near the platform their train used.

A validator for South West Trains smartcards is installed (but not
functionning) at Windsor & Eton Riverside, not just the support.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1372309255

I don't think there's any indication yet as to what it will work with.

Very interesting - that looks very like the set up (complete with "hat")
that is used on the New Territories Tram network in Hong Kong. There
they have specific entry and exit validators with different coloured
"hats".

Anyone know who SWT have contracted to implement their ITSO equipment?
ERG did the HK system and that looks very close to the HK design.

I understand Cubic have got the gating work for the franchise commitment
gating stations.
--
Paul C- Hide quoted text -

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They appear to be installing them down here in the South West too.
Areas for fitting the readers have appeared in two positions at
Axminster station and stations to Pinhoe, nothing at Exeter Central/
St. Davids, then again they are fGW. I think they may be appearing at
stations West of Salisbury, then again they are on about cutting
booking office hours down this end of the route.
Martin.

On 31 Aug, 18:34, wrote:
On 31 Aug, 12:50, "Paul Scott" wrote:



"Paul Corfield" wrote in message

.. .

Four sets of smartcard validators have now been fitted on each side
of
the entrance arches to Kings Cross opposite platforms 1-8. They are
not comissioned yet.

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme of
work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW, NXEA).
Any signs of life south of the river?

I've just seen newly installed supports for smartcard validators as far away
as Woolston (near Southampton). Doubt they'll be reading Oyster though....

Back to the OP in this thread however, these new validators at KX are
presumably just extras, PAYG is already valid there, but I guess validators
were a bit thin on the ground on the direct route from the mainline
platforms to the tube ticket hall?

Paul S

A validator for South West Trains smartcards is installed (but not
functionning) at Windsor & Eton Riverside, not just the support.http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1372309255

I don't think there's any indication yet as to what it will work with.

There are also smartcard validators on the Sheffield to Doncaster line
(e.g. at Meadowhall) but that's for South Yorkshire tickets.http://www.yorcard.com/

Jonathan

Are the YorCard passes valid for use on the railways yet? According to
the website:

"Yorcard will be available on the following services as the pilot
scheme develops."

"All trains between Sheffield and Doncaster:

* Sheffield - Meadowhall - Rotherham - Moorthorpe/Doncaster
* Sheffield - Meadowhall - Rotherham - Doncaster"

However there has been no update on the Latest News page to say that
this is the case.

As a rail passenger in West Yorkshire (which is co-funding the
technology with SY) frustrated with the limitations of paper based
ticketing; I am following the developments on this initiative with
interest...

Have you got any photos of the validators? Do they resemble the SWT
ones as shown above?

On 1 Sep, 00:05, Neal wrote:
On 31 Aug, 18:34, wrote:





On 31 Aug, 12:50, "Paul Scott" wrote:

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message

.. .

Four sets of smartcard validators have now been fitted on each side
of
the entrance arches to Kings Cross opposite platforms 1-8. They are
not comissioned yet.

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme of
work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW, NXEA).
Any signs of life south of the river?

I've just seen newly installed supports for smartcard validators as far away
as Woolston (near Southampton). Doubt they'll be reading Oyster though...

Back to the OP in this thread however, these new validators at KX are
presumably just extras, PAYG is already valid there, but I guess validators
were a bit thin on the ground on the direct route from the mainline
platforms to the tube ticket hall?

Paul S

A validator for South West Trains smartcards is installed (but not
functionning) at Windsor & Eton Riverside, not just the support.http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1372309255

I don't think there's any indication yet as to what it will work with.

There are also smartcard validators on the Sheffield to Doncaster line
(e.g. at Meadowhall) but that's for South Yorkshire tickets.http://www.yorcard.com/

Jonathan

Are the YorCard passes valid for use on the railways yet? According to
the website:

"Yorcard will be available on the following services as the pilot
scheme develops."

"All trains between Sheffield and Doncaster:

* * * Sheffield - Meadowhall - Rotherham - Moorthorpe/Doncaster
* * * Sheffield - Meadowhall - Rotherham - Doncaster"

However there has been no update on the Latest News page to say that
this is the case.

As a rail passenger in West Yorkshire (which is co-funding the
technology with SY) frustrated with the limitations of paper based
ticketing; I am following the developments on this initiative with
interest...

Have you got any photos of the validators? Do they resemble the SWT
ones as shown above?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I haven't taken a picture but I did see them at Meadowhall when I was
there earlier in the year (I think there's one on the Doncaster-
Sheffield platform affixed to the wall just by the exit door from the
waiting area among others). I don't know whether it was working at
the time. It wasn't the same design as the South West Trains
validator.

Jonathan

On Aug 31, 12:30*pm, Rupert Candy wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:06*am, Paul Corfield wrote:

Interesting observations. *Looks like there is a concerted programme of
work to get validators installed on at least 3 TOCs (FCC, FGW, NXEA).
Any signs of life south of the river?

None in SouthEastern-land yet, more's the pity... SouthEastern appear
to be the only TOC who haven't made any sort of firm commitment to
accepting Oyster, so I have no great hopes of anything happening soon.

And yet they seem to be ahead on selling Oyster, or maybe that's only
at Lewisham, where they definitely sell it at the counter now* and
there's a card-only machine (which often doesn't work when I go there
for the purpose).

One might suppose that this would be to do with the DLR, except that
the DLR doesn't sell Oyster.

*Actually they disappear off to some other part of the ticket office
to do it, but at least they can.