On Sep 24, 1:40 am, Mizter T wrote:
On 23 Sep, 21:56, Rupert Candy wrote:

On Sep 22, 5:58 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

'Rail Manager online' reporting the first 378 to travel south tomorrow, and
the possibility of Third Rail electrification of the GOB line...

http://91.186.0.3/~keepingt/rm/164/RMAN_164.pdf

There's a sizeable feature in this week's Railway Herald
(www.railwayherald.com) about the 378s, with several pictures. Anyone
else struck by the lack of handles at useful heights for that massive
standing space in between the seats? You'd think they'd have learnt
their lesson from the 376s.

I'd seen this photo and had a similar thought about the lack of
handles:http://www.upmain.fotopic.net/p53614368.html

Looks like they had plenty of seating material left over from the old
tube D stock.

B2003

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Boltar wrote:

On Sep 24, 1:40 am, Mizter T wrote:
On 23 Sep, 21:56, Rupert Candy wrote:

On Sep 22, 5:58 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

'Rail Manager online' reporting the first 378 to travel south tomorrow, and
the possibility of Third Rail electrification of the GOB line...

http://91.186.0.3/~keepingt/rm/164/RMAN_164.pdf

There's a sizeable feature in this week's Railway Herald
(www.railwayherald.com) about the 378s, with several pictures. Anyone
else struck by the lack of handles at useful heights for that massive
standing space in between the seats? You'd think they'd have learnt
their lesson from the 376s.

I'd seen this photo and had a similar thought about the lack of
handles:http://www.upmain.fotopic.net/p53614368.html

Looks like they had plenty of seating material left over from the old
tube D stock.

Indeed!

I'm also surprised by the narrow field of view the driver gets:

http://www.upmain.fotopic.net/p53614363.html

Is that just an illusion due to the angle of the shot? From the outside,
it looks like there are windows either side of the central one, but
they're obscured by the monitors.

tom

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On 24 Sep, 13:47, Tom Anderson wrote:
Is that just an illusion due to the angle of the shot? From the outside,
it looks like there are windows either side of the central one, but
they're obscured by the monitors.

The driver looks out of the left side window (or the right from
outside). It looks to me like the centre cab door is opaque, so the
monitors in front of it aren't obscuring anything, and the monitor on
the left of the picture is against the side wall. There's a tiny
window to the left of it for seeing stopping marks and such. Pretty
much the same view as in other trains with cab-end doors.

U

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mr Thant wrote:

On 24 Sep, 13:47, Tom Anderson wrote:
Is that just an illusion due to the angle of the shot? From the outside,
it looks like there are windows either side of the central one, but
they're obscured by the monitors.

The driver looks out of the left side window (or the right from
outside).

Aaah, that makes sense. I'd assumed his window was in the middle!

It looks to me like the centre cab door is opaque, so the monitors in
front of it aren't obscuring anything, and the monitor on the left of
the picture is against the side wall. There's a tiny window to the left
of it for seeing stopping marks and such. Pretty much the same view as
in other trains with cab-end doors.

Can the driver, or anyone else, see out of the right-hand window? Or is
that opaque too?

If people want to use the door, what happens to the monitors? Do they fold
out of the way or something?

tom

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Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mr Thant wrote:

It looks to me like the centre cab door is opaque, so the monitors in
front of it aren't obscuring anything, and the monitor on the left of
the picture is against the side wall. There's a tiny window to the
left of it for seeing stopping marks and such. Pretty much the same
view as in other trains with cab-end doors.

Can the driver, or anyone else, see out of the right-hand window? Or
is that opaque too?

If people want to use the door, what happens to the monitors? Do they
fold out of the way or something?

Yes - that aspect is fairly standard on gangway fitted EMUs. The Electrostar
cabs have a fair amount of kit that gets repositioned (towards the drivers
seat) when the gangway between units is in use IIRC.

Paul S