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Public transport - why?
On 24 Sep, 21:57, "Peter Hucker" wrote:
It's just not viable. For a laugh (and because they just built a station next to my house) I decided to check the feasability of a train to work. *It takes twice as long and costs twice as much as by car. *(1.5 hours instead of 45 mins and 16.50 instead of 7.50) Silly treehuggers. Is this the same throughout the country? *I'm in central Scotland. Nope. Train for me takes 1h05 - 1h20 depending on when I leave, car takes 1h25 in good traffic I also get to watch TV/read a book/reply to trolls while I'm on the train. Either that or work, and hence leave early. Also get to go to the pub after work Cost wise train costs about £13 a day, car costs £11 a day in petrol alone -- £45 a day in inland revenue mileage. |
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August West writes: For me, train takes 20 minutes, door to door; the car 45-60. Cost of train: about fiver; just parking the car costs rather more than that. Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the driver and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the student- discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses. Working out the bus-fare is extremely complicated and effectively non-deterministic. I can't help thinking that the bus company must like it that way. Car takes 12-18 minutes for 6.8 miles (excluding outliers like snow/ice/fog and obstruction by accidents) which is a little bit more than a litre of fuel for the trip. Car-parking at works costs ~50p/day. Considering I have the car anyway, the timing and arithmetic is pretty clear. I'm in central Scotland, too. Likewise. Still getting to work by car. If I need to do _anything_ other than just go to work and come back (bit of shopping, etc.), which I do maybe one day a week) bus is a no-hoper. -- SAm. |
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In message , at 11:22:38 on Thu, 25 Sep
2008, Sam Nelson remarked: If I need to do _anything_ other than just go to work and come back (bit of shopping, etc.), which I do maybe one day a week) bus is a no-hoper. I can travel around on the bus all day for a shade over £2 (because I have a pre-pay card) or £3 on a turn-up-and-go basis. Parking at the station is £8 per day and you'd be lucky to find any parking in my city centre (Nottingham) elsewhere for less than £2 per hour. I work from home, and the parking there is free. -- Roland Perry |
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August West writes: (Sam Nelson) writes: I'm in central Scotland, too. Likewise. Still getting to work by car. If I need to do _anything_ other than just go to work and come back (bit of shopping, etc.), which I do maybe one day a week) bus is a no-hoper. But then you essentially, and unusually, work in the countryside, so your pressures are almost entirely the reverse of a town-worker like me. Pfft. I drive past a city twice a day! For example, my office contains about 100 engineers, but there are only 5 parking spaces for the two floors we are on. The ank & transport company on the 4 floors above have the same ratio of staff: parking spaces. But we are very near shops, etc. That ank business, it's a killer. -- SAm. |
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Sam Nelson wrote:
For example, my office contains about 100 engineers, but there are only 5 parking spaces for the two floors we are on. The ank & transport company on the 4 floors above have the same ratio of staff: parking spaces. But we are very near shops, etc. That ank business, it's a killer. Tank? It's one way to turn rush hour into crush hour, I suppose. The mpg's not brilliant. Tom |
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In message , at 13:50:24 on Thu, 25
Sep 2008, August West remarked: For example, my office contains about 100 engineers, but there are only 5 parking spaces for the two floors we are on. The ank & transport company on the 4 floors above have the same ratio of staff: parking spaces. But we are very near shops, etc. That ank business, it's a killer. Tank? It's one way to turn rush hour into crush hour, I suppose. The mpg's not brilliant. bank dank hank lank rank sank tank wank yank Take your pick as to the most likely! Angel Trains is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland; HSBC Rail (formerly Eversholt Leasing) by err, HSBC; and Porterbrook by Abbey National; so that's three possible "bank and transport" companies. -- Roland Perry |
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Not in Scotland now, but bus costs me nothing (Old Codger's Pass),
long-distance coach is half fare. Stopped using a car... Motorbike for fun, though. -- Rusty Men love women, women love children, children love hamsters. (Alice Thomas Ellis) |
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from August West contains these words: Ah, I misrepresented (missed out a comma): it's one bank, and one transport company. And it's none of the banks menitoned above, either. The transport company does trams. So does Banksy -- Rusty Men love women, women love children, children love hamsters. (Alice Thomas Ellis) |
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In message , Roland Perry
writes Angel Trains is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland They sold Angel Trains for £3.6 billion to a group lead by Babcock & Brown http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7452205.stm -- David |
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In message , at 17:32:59 on Thu, 25 Sep
2008, David Livingstone remarked: Angel Trains is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland They sold Angel Trains for £3.6 billion to a group lead by Babcock & Brown http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7452205.stm Someone needs to update wikipedia. -- Roland Perry |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:11:51 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
Someone needs to update wikipedia. And, in other news... -- One way ticket from Mornington Crescent to Tannhauser Gate please. |
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Roland Perry gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: Someone needs to update wikipedia. Don't let us stop you. |
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In message , at 20:55:43 on Thu, 25
Sep 2008, Adrian remarked: Someone needs to update wikipedia. Don't let us stop you. I may do that, now the deal seems be certain; although it might be quicker if someone more used to the wikipedia runes did it. http://www.angeltrains.co.uk/press/release.aspx?Id=703 -- Roland Perry |
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Sam Nelson wrote:
Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the driver and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the student- discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses. Don't suppose you have an easy link to anything about that, do you? It could be worth suggesting hereabouts. |
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On 26 Sep, 12:04, wrote:
In article , (David Livingstone) wrote: In message , Roland Perry writes Angel Trains is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland They sold Angel Trains for £3.6 billion to a group lead by Babcock & Brownhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7452205.stm or even a group LED by Babcock & Brown. I do wish people would understand the difference between a heavy dull grey metal and the past tense of the verb "to lead". Does "to lead" mean "to chastise with a bar of heavy dull grey metal in order to deter the use of inappropriate spellings"? |
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Willy Eckerslyke writes: Sam Nelson wrote: Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the driver and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the student- discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses. Don't suppose you have an easy link to anything about that, do you? It could be worth suggesting hereabouts. It's all a bit haphazard at the moment, because apparently it's only just happened. You go to https://www.firstgroup.com/students/...ast/idcard.php and answer `Staff' to the full/part-time student question. You also have to lie about which year of study you're in. That's as much detail as I have, right now. -- SAm. |
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Sam Nelson wrote:
In article , Willy Eckerslyke writes: Sam Nelson wrote: Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the driver and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the student- discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses. Don't suppose you have an easy link to anything about that, do you? It could be worth suggesting hereabouts. It's all a bit haphazard at the moment, because apparently it's only just happened. You go to https://www.firstgroup.com/students/...ast/idcard.php and answer `Staff' to the full/part-time student question. You also have to lie about which year of study you're in. That's as much detail as I have, right now. Ta. By the time I get around to doing anything about it, they may have got it a little more organised. |
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Willy Eckerslyke wrote:
Sam Nelson wrote: In article , Willy Eckerslyke writes: Sam Nelson wrote: Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the driver and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the student- discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses. On the other hand... I just checked and Arriva's student discounts only apply to season tickets, so would be less appealing. Never mind. |
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Huge wrote:
I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? Indeed, but outside near the Royal Mail depot is an extremely fine Indian Restaurant with a decent wine list. OTOH, when a colleague of mine was crossing from the station to the restaurant someone bashed him over the head with a brick and stole his laptop. |
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Huge writes:
I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when they've spent 550 million on it. http://www.birminghammail.net/news/b...7319-21847775/ Chris -- Chris Eilbeck |
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says... Huge writes: I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when they've spent 550 million on it. http://www.birminghammail.net/news/b...7319-21847775/ 50 million for a thermonuclear device of some sort, and half a billion for the rebuild? -- SAm. |
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Chris Eilbeck wrote:
Huge writes: I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when they've spent 550 million on it. I'm still laughing at: "this iconic new gateway to Birmingham will cement the city's place as one of Europe's style capitals" and "will put Birmingham in the same league as architectural giants like Barcelona and London" No, please, make them stop. |
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In article ,
says... In article , says... Huge writes: I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when they've spent 550 million on it. http://www.birminghammail.net/news/b...7319-21847775/ 50 million for a thermonuclear device of some sort, and half a billion for the rebuild? The trick is that they are doing the rebuild in Tamworth. -- eric Live fast, die only if strictly necessary. |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:19:15 +0100, Bing Trotsky wrote:
In article , says... Paul Weaver writes: On 24 Sep, 21:57, "Peter Hucker" wrote: It's just not viable. For a laugh (and because they just built a station next to my house) I decided to check the feasability of a train to work. *It takes twice as long and costs twice as much as by car. *(1.5 hours instead of 45 mins and 16.50 instead of 7.50) Silly treehuggers. Is this the same throughout the country? *I'm in central Scotland. Nope. Train for me takes 1h05 - 1h20 depending on when I leave, car takes 1h25 in good traffic For me, train takes 20 minutes, door to door; the car 45-60. Cost of train: about fiver; just parking the car costs rather more than that. I'm in central Scotland, too. I'm in central London. A 45 minute journey by car I can probably walk in 15 minutes. I think the problem is my journey is not in line with the rails. I have to change twice (the train not my clothes). I have an LPG vehicle which is cheaper, and I drive in a non standard way which is faster. -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com System error 4C: kernel panic |
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(Steve Firth) writes:
Chris Eilbeck wrote: Huge writes: I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when they've spent 550 million on it. I'm still laughing at: "this iconic new gateway to Birmingham will cement the city's place as one of Europe's style capitals" and "will put Birmingham in the same league as architectural giants like Barcelona and London" No, please, make them stop. Well we'll never get anything built in Brum like the TGV station outside Lyon. The Victorian Society were on the local news earlier opposing a horrible concrete tower block being pulled down and replaced with a metal and glass one. Chris -- Chris Eilbeck |
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from Bing Trotsky contains these words: In article , lid says... I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. That's about the nicest thing I've ever read about Birmingham. IMO it's a complete ******** and a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? It's in Birmingham, what do you expect? Could be worse though. You might have had to go to Grimsby. When in Birmingham visit the Anchor at Digbeth, and find an imposing selection of cask-conditioned ales and beers. Puts B'ham in a whole new category - i.e.: Must Go There. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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The message
from (Steve Firth) contains these words: Chris Eilbeck wrote: Huge writes: I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But boy, isn't New Street a ********? It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when they've spent 550 million on it. I'm still laughing at: "this iconic new gateway to Birmingham will cement the city's place as one of Europe's style capitals" and "will put Birmingham in the same league as architectural giants like Barcelona and London" No, please, make them stop. They don't combine the words 'Bull' and 'Ring' for nothing innit. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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In message , Peter Hucker
writes I drive in a non standard way which is faster. Ooh, do tell more -- bof at bof dot me dot uk |
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In article , lid
says... On 2008-09-26, Bing Trotsky wrote: In article , lid says... Could be worse though. You might have had to go to Grimsby. I last went to Grimsby about 30 years ago. I don't recall it being particularly horrid. It's the combination of the biting see breeze direct from Scandanavia, the smell of rotting fish (though not from Scandanavia), and the added bonus of the entire contents of just about every sewer in the Midlands or Yorkshire emptying into the Humber to wash ashore at Cleethorpes. -- eric Live fast, die only if strictly necessary. |
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:40:24 +0100, bof wrote:
In message , Peter Hucker writes I drive in a non standard way which is faster. Ooh, do tell more Just take the highway code and burn half of it. Then remove all respect for other road users. -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair after a sneeze. |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:29:17 +0100, Hot Badger Deluxe wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:09:54 +0100, Owen Wilson wrote: snip Owen. How much? And why did you set FU without announcing it? FU are for trolls. -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com The following is a telephone exchange between a hotel guest and room-service, at a hotel in Asia, which was recorded and published in the Far East Economic Review: Room Service: "Morrin. Roon sirbees." Guest: "Sorry, I thought I dialed room-service." Room Service: "Rye..Roon sirbees..morrin! Jewish to oddor sunteen??" Guest: "Uh..yes..I'd like some bacon and eggs." Room Service: "Ow July den?" Guest: "What??" Room Service: "Ow July den?...pryed, boyud, poochd?" Guest: "Oh, the eggs! How do I like them? Sorry, scrambled please." Room Service: "Ow July dee baykem? Crease?" Guest: "Crisp will be fine." Room Service: "Hokay. An Sahn toes?" Guest: "What?" Room Service: "An toes. July Sahn toes?" Guest: "I don't think so." Room Service: "No? Judo wan sahn toes??" Guest: "I feel really bad about this, but I don't know what 'judo wan sahn toes' means." Room Service: "Toes! toes!...Why jew don juan toes? Ow bow Anglish moppin we bodder?" Guest: "English muffin!! I've got it! You were saying 'Toast.' Fine. Yes, an English muffin will be fine." Room Service: "We bodder?" Guest: "No...just put the bodder on the side. Room Service: "Wad?" Guest: "I mean butter...just put it on the side." Room Service: "Copy?" Guest: "Excuse me?" Room Service: "Copy...tea...meel?" Guest: "Yes. Coffee, please, and that's all." Room Service: "One Minnie. Scramah egg, crease baykem, Anglish moppin we bodder on sigh and copy....rye??" Guest: "Whatever you say." Room Service: "Tenjewberrymuds." Guest: "You're very welcome." |
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