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David Baxter September 16th 03 01:36 AM

Train Stock Question
 
Greetings Group,

Does someone, somewhere, have a list of what stock is used on which lines?
District line seemed to have the oldest stock on my last visit, with the
Jubilee line having the newest (or at least, shiniest (!)) stock.

Thanks in advance,
Dave
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r.shemilt September 16th 03 06:28 AM

Train Stock Question
 

"David Baxter" wrote in message
...
Greetings Group,

Does someone, somewhere, have a list of what stock is used on which lines?
District line seemed to have the oldest stock on my last visit, with the
Jubilee line having the newest (or at least, shiniest (!)) stock.


See:

http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/tr...ephone%20Wires

for a description on what the window height, copper wires are for. (You may
have to copy and paste the link if it breaks into two lines)

R M S



Robin May September 16th 03 08:49 AM

Train Stock Question
 
"David Baxter" wrote the
following in:

Greetings Group,

Does someone, somewhere, have a list of what stock is used on
which lines? District line seemed to have the oldest stock on my
last visit, with the Jubilee line having the newest (or at least,
shiniest (!)) stock.


I'm not the most knowledgeable about this so don't rely on what I say
too much. I believe that sub surface line stock is referred to with a
letter and deep line stock is referred to with the date it was intedned
to be delivered or made, or put into service: it's one of the three,
I'm not sure which.

Sub surface lines:
The oldest stock is the Metropolitan (and East London) line A stock.
It's from the early 60s (1960 and 1962 I think) but it was refurbished
a few years ago so it seems more modern. The Circle, H&C and parts of
the District line use C stock, some of which is from the late 60s and
some of which is from the 70s (1976 I think) although it was all
refurbished in the early 90s. The District line uses D Stock which is
from the late 70s/early 80s. It's the only unrefurbished stock on the
Underground so in many ways it seems like the oldest, even though it's
actually the newest sub surface stock (which is why it hasn't been
refurbished yet).

Deep lines:
The oldest is the 1967 stock on the Victoria line, this also uses
automatic train operation (and has since the start of the line). The
1972 stock used on the Bakerloo line without automatic train operation
has a similar design (at least as far as how it looks) but with
different colours used inside the trains. Both the 1967 and 1972 stocks
were refurbished in the early 90s. The Piccadilly line uses 1973 stock,
and that was refurbished quite recently too. The Central line uses 1992
stock which hasn't been refurbished because it's still quite new,
although apparently it's also quite reliable. The Jubilee line uses
1996 stock although apparently it's actually an older design than the
1995 stock used on the Northern line. The 1995 and 1996 stock look
quite similar with a few differences such as some extra seating on the
95 stock and some different colours.

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r.shemilt September 16th 03 06:25 PM

Train Stock Question
 

See:


http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/tr...ephone%20Wires

for a description on what the window height, copper wires are for. (You

may
have to copy and paste the link if it breaks into two lines)

R M S



Whoops - outlook playing up - should of course had been an answer to the
"Copper Wires" Thread - however, Tubeprune has a list of stocks used at

http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Rolling%20Stock.htm

R M S



Richard J. September 16th 03 08:54 PM

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r.shemilt wrote:

Whoops - outlook playing up


Unlikely, since you're using Outlook Express, a quite different product.
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(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Stimpy September 17th 03 09:49 AM

Train Stock Question
 
In article , Richard
J. wrote:
r.shemilt wrote:

Whoops - outlook playing up


Unlikely, since you're using Outlook Express, a quite different
product.


Outlook invokes OE when you select the 'News' option. It could,
therefore, be regarded as a component part of Outlook by someone who
hasn't specifically installed OE



Colin Rosenstiel October 1st 03 08:19 PM

Train Stock Question
 
In article ,
(Robin May) wrote:

"David Baxter" wrote the
following in:

Greetings Group,

Does someone, somewhere, have a list of what stock is used on
which lines? District line seemed to have the oldest stock on my
last visit, with the Jubilee line having the newest (or at least,
shiniest (!)) stock.


I'm not the most knowledgeable about this so don't rely on what I say
too much. I believe that sub surface line stock is referred to with a
letter and deep line stock is referred to with the date it was intedned
to be delivered or made, or put into service: it's one of the three,
I'm not sure which.

Sub surface lines:
The oldest stock is the Metropolitan (and East London) line A stock.
It's from the early 60s (1960 and 1962 I think) but it was refurbished


1960 and 1962 indeed.

a few years ago so it seems more modern. The Circle, H&C and parts of
the District line use C stock, some of which is from the late 60s and
some of which is from the 70s (1976 I think) although it was all


1969 (mostly) and 1977. The Stock runs on the Circle, H&C and the
Wimbledon-Edgware Road section of the District.

refurbished in the early 90s. The District line uses D Stock which is
from the late 70s/early 80s. It's the only unrefurbished stock on the
Underground so in many ways it seems like the oldest, even though it's
actually the newest sub surface stock (which is why it hasn't been
refurbished yet).


D stock was once referred to as D78 stock to indicate its intended year of
introduction but it was 1980 before it entered service. One unit has been
partly refurbished.

Deep lines:
The oldest is the 1967 stock on the Victoria line, this also uses
automatic train operation (and has since the start of the line). The
1972 stock used on the Bakerloo line without automatic train operation
has a similar design (at least as far as how it looks) but with
different colours used inside the trains. Both the 1967 and 1972 stocks
were refurbished in the early 90s.


The Victoria Line also has some 1972 (Mark I) stock which originally ran
on the Northern line. It was used to increase the number of 1967 stock
units by splitting one in two and adding 1971 stock cars to make two units
with only one Victoria Line equipped cab each. You can tell from the door
treadover plates which are dated 1972.

The Piccadilly line uses 1973 stock,
and that was refurbished quite recently too. The Central line uses 1992
stock which hasn't been refurbished because it's still quite new,
although apparently it's also quite reliable.


Are you being sarcastic? The Waterloo and City also uses 1992 stock, BTW.

The Jubilee line uses
1996 stock although apparently it's actually an older design than the
1995 stock used on the Northern line. The 1995 and 1996 stock look
quite similar with a few differences such as some extra seating on the
95 stock and some different colours.


The 1995 stock has tip-up seats where 1996 stock has perches to lean on,
if you're the right height (I'm too tall).

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Robin May October 1st 03 11:11 PM

Train Stock Question
 
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote the following in:


In article ,
(Robin May) wrote:

The Piccadilly line uses 1973 stock,
and that was refurbished quite recently too. The Central line
uses 1992 stock which hasn't been refurbished because it's still
quite new, although apparently it's also quite reliable.


Are you being sarcastic? The Waterloo and City also uses 1992
stock, BTW.


Oops! No, not sarcastic, I just forgot to add in "un". So yes, it is
apparently quite unreliable.

The Jubilee line uses
1996 stock although apparently it's actually an older design than
the 1995 stock used on the Northern line. The 1995 and 1996 stock
look quite similar with a few differences such as some extra
seating on the 95 stock and some different colours.


The 1995 stock has tip-up seats where 1996 stock has perches to
lean on, if you're the right height (I'm too tall).


Yes, I much prefer the tip up seats, although I suppose it could be
argued they decrease standing room at rush hour.

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Colin Rosenstiel October 2nd 03 01:19 AM

Train Stock Question
 
In article ,
(Robin May) wrote:

(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote the following in:


In article ,
(Robin May) wrote:

The Piccadilly line uses 1973 stock,
and that was refurbished quite recently too. The Central line
uses 1992 stock which hasn't been refurbished because it's still
quite new, although apparently it's also quite reliable.


Are you being sarcastic? The Waterloo and City also uses 1992
stock, BTW.


Oops! No, not sarcastic, I just forgot to add in "un". So yes, it is
apparently quite unreliable.


Rather more reliable than the now deceased 1983 stock apparently but we
will no doubt be hearing more about the 1992 stock.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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