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amd September 16th 03 11:21 AM

Oyster Card - charge?
 
Hi,

I've looked over the groups and the Oyster website and cannot find the
answer to my question:

Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you
just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the
card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card
itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top.

please can someone clarify?

thanks

Robin Mayes September 16th 03 11:31 AM

Oyster Card - charge?
 

"amd" wrote in message
om...
Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you
just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the
card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card
itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top.

please can someone clarify?


No charge



Paul Weaver September 16th 03 10:49 PM

Oyster Card - charge?
 
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message ...
"amd" wrote in message
om...
Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you
just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the
card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card
itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top.

please can someone clarify?


No charge


Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but
you've got to resist where you can.

Ed Crowley September 17th 03 08:51 AM

Oyster Card - charge?
 

"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
om...
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message

...
"amd" wrote in message
om...
Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you
just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the
card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card
itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top.

please can someone clarify?


No charge


Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but
you've got to resist where you can.


If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying
cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-)



Helen Deborah Vecht September 17th 03 11:23 AM

Oyster Card - charge?
 
"Ed Crowley" typed



"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
om...
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message

...
"amd" wrote in message
om...
Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you
just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the
card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card
itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top.

please can someone clarify?

No charge


Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but
you've got to resist where you can.


If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying
cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-)



I hope you don't have any store loyalty cards. They can inform Big
Brother precisely which shade of loo paper you use, how much and how
frequently you buy it...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Paul Weaver September 17th 03 01:51 PM

Oyster Card - charge?
 
"Ed Crowley" wrote in message t...
Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but
you've got to resist where you can.


If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying
cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-)


Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont
peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon
as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and
conservative governments) they can abuse the information.

simon September 17th 03 02:18 PM

Oyster Card - charge?
 
Paul Weaver" wrote in message
om...
"Ed Crowley" wrote in message

t...
Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but
you've got to resist where you can.


If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue

paying
cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-)


Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont
peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon
as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and
conservative governments) they can abuse the information.


Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when you
get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all your
journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at
weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from
companies in your area.



HP September 17th 03 02:41 PM

Oyster Card - charge?
 

"simon" wrote in message
...
Paul Weaver" wrote in message
om...
"Ed Crowley" wrote in message

t...
Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I

go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but
you've got to resist where you can.

If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue

paying
cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-)


Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont
peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon
as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and
conservative governments) they can abuse the information.


Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when you
get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all

your
journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at
weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from
companies in your area.


One of the things that scare me about these cards is the way they can place
you near a scene of a crime, so if you have a record anyway, you are likely
to raise alarm bells even if you had nothing to do with it.

Plus, the ramifications of other people potentially being able to purchase a
record of my movements...no thanks!




HP September 17th 03 02:43 PM

Oyster Card - charge?
 

"HP" wrote in message
...

"simon" wrote in message
...
Paul Weaver" wrote in message
om...
"Ed Crowley" wrote in message

t...
Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one?

I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I

go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway,

but
you've got to resist where you can.

If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue

paying
cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-)

Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont
peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon
as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and
conservative governments) they can abuse the information.


Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when

you
get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all

your
journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at
weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from
companies in your area.


One of the things that scare me about these cards is the way they can

place
you near a scene of a crime, so if you have a record anyway, you are

likely
to raise alarm bells even if you had nothing to do with it.

Plus, the ramifications of other people potentially being able to purchase

a
record of my movements...no thanks!

And no, i do not use store cards or credit cards for everyday purchases
either :)






Ed Crowley September 17th 03 02:44 PM

Oyster Card - charge?
 

"HP" wrote in message
...

"simon" wrote in message
...
Paul Weaver" wrote in message
om...
"Ed Crowley" wrote in message

t...
Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one?

I
dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I

go -
I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway,

but
you've got to resist where you can.

If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue

paying
cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-)

Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont
peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon
as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and
conservative governments) they can abuse the information.


Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when

you
get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all

your
journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at
weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from
companies in your area.


One of the things that scare me about these cards is the way they can

place
you near a scene of a crime, so if you have a record anyway, you are

likely
to raise alarm bells even if you had nothing to do with it.

Plus, the ramifications of other people potentially being able to purchase

a
record of my movements...no thanks!


If you've already got a monthly paper travelcard LUL already have this data.
The Oystercard just adds bus journeys to the data they could collect about
you.




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