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September 16th 03, 11:21 AM
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Oyster Card - charge?
Hi,
I've looked over the groups and the Oyster website and cannot find the answer to my question: Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top. please can someone clarify? thanks |
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September 16th 03, 11:31 AM
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"amd" wrote in message om... Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top. please can someone clarify? No charge |
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September 16th 03, 10:49 PM
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Oyster Card - charge?
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message ...
"amd" wrote in message om... Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top. please can someone clarify? No charge Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. |
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September 17th 03, 08:51 AM
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"Paul Weaver" wrote in message om... "Robin Mayes" wrote in message ... "amd" wrote in message om... Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top. please can someone clarify? No charge Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-) |
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September 17th 03, 11:23 AM
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Oyster Card - charge?
"Ed Crowley" typed
"Paul Weaver" wrote in message om... "Robin Mayes" wrote in message ... "amd" wrote in message om... Is there a charge to own an Oyster card in the first place or do you just pay the cost of the season/monthly/7-day travelcard and get the card for free? I've been told that there is a charge for the card itself, with the actual cost of transport to be paid on top. please can someone clarify? No charge Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-) I hope you don't have any store loyalty cards. They can inform Big Brother precisely which shade of loo paper you use, how much and how frequently you buy it... -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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September 17th 03, 01:51 PM
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"Ed Crowley" wrote in message t...
Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-) Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and conservative governments) they can abuse the information. |
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September 17th 03, 02:18 PM
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Oyster Card - charge?
Paul Weaver" wrote in message
om... "Ed Crowley" wrote in message t... Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-) Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and conservative governments) they can abuse the information. Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when you get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all your journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from companies in your area. |
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September 17th 03, 02:41 PM
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"simon" wrote in message ... Paul Weaver" wrote in message om... "Ed Crowley" wrote in message t... Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-) Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and conservative governments) they can abuse the information. Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when you get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all your journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from companies in your area. One of the things that scare me about these cards is the way they can place you near a scene of a crime, so if you have a record anyway, you are likely to raise alarm bells even if you had nothing to do with it. Plus, the ramifications of other people potentially being able to purchase a record of my movements...no thanks! |
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September 17th 03, 02:43 PM
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"HP" wrote in message ... "simon" wrote in message ... Paul Weaver" wrote in message om... "Ed Crowley" wrote in message t... Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-) Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and conservative governments) they can abuse the information. Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when you get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all your journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from companies in your area. One of the things that scare me about these cards is the way they can place you near a scene of a crime, so if you have a record anyway, you are likely to raise alarm bells even if you had nothing to do with it. Plus, the ramifications of other people potentially being able to purchase a record of my movements...no thanks! And no, i do not use store cards or credit cards for everyday purchases either  |
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September 17th 03, 02:44 PM
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"HP" wrote in message ... "simon" wrote in message ... Paul Weaver" wrote in message om... "Ed Crowley" wrote in message t... Do you have to fill in some form or can you have an anonymous one? I dont want LUL to build up a pattern of where I go and what time I go - I know that face recognition and CCTV will do this soon anyway, but you've got to resist where you can. If you want to remain completely anonymous you'll have to continue paying cash for paper tickets wearing a balaclava. ;-) Well I always pay cash, and I'm thinking of buying a balaclava. I dont peopel people seeing me, I dont like my movements in a database. Soon as we get a corrupt government (basically all socialist and conservative governments) they can abuse the information. Not sure how they will hold the info from an Oyster, but I expect when you get your card you then agree to TFL being able to store and analyse all your journeys. They'll know where you travel to for work, where you go at weekends. It won't be long before they send you relevent leaflets from companies in your area. One of the things that scare me about these cards is the way they can place you near a scene of a crime, so if you have a record anyway, you are likely to raise alarm bells even if you had nothing to do with it. Plus, the ramifications of other people potentially being able to purchase a record of my movements...no thanks! If you've already got a monthly paper travelcard LUL already have this data. The Oystercard just adds bus journeys to the data they could collect about you. |
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