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[email protected] November 7th 08 12:26 AM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.

The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney Station at
05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10 at 05:21.

The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much better
than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone done that sort
of thing and agree or otherwise?

Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square would
be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at 05:44, a very
similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

MIG November 7th 08 09:16 AM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:
I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.

The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney Station at
05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10 at 05:21.

The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much better
than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone done that sort
of thing and agree or otherwise?

Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square would
be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at 05:44, a very
similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


I haven't checked the journey planner for those times, but I'd always
assume Vauxhall and Victoria Line for getting from Putney to Euston.

[email protected] November 7th 08 05:45 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
Personally I would try the tube option first. If the 0503 did not
turn up I would go and catch the 0518 bus giving the best of both
options

Peter Smyth November 7th 08 05:57 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 

wrote in message
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I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.

The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney
Station at
05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10 at 05:21.

The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much
better
than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone done that
sort
of thing and agree or otherwise?

Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square
would
be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at 05:44, a
very
similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


The timetable can be found at
http://www.londonbusroutes.net/times/014.htm

It seems the 0503 arrives at Warren Street at 0531 not 0521. 28 minutes
for ~7 miles seems reasonable enough at that time of the morning.

Peter Smyth


Mizter T November 7th 08 06:15 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:
I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.

The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney Station at
05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10 at 05:21.

The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much better
than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone done that sort
of thing and agree or otherwise?

Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square would
be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at 05:44, a very
similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


I'd have no qualms at all about getting the bus at that time of day.
Early morning buses are quick thanks to the lack of traffic and
relatively light loading, and I've always found buses around that time
of day to be reliable and to broadly keep to timetable. Another plus
in the reliability stakes is that the 14 starts just up the road at
the Green Man so one can be even more confident about the stated time
for its arrival at your stop on Putney High Street. (If anything I'd
advise that you are there 5 minutes early, just in case.)

The Underground might be fine, but there is the added factor of it
involving two different trains courtesy of a change from the District
to the Circle at High Street Ken. The sub-surface lines, as we all
know, do have a tendency do get the hiccups rather easily, especially
the Circle line - also I might be wary of problems with the first
trains of the day, though perhaps my wariness is unjustified.

Nonetheless the bus is timetabled to be quicker that the Underground
so I reckon I'd go with that.

Mizter T November 7th 08 06:30 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 

On 7 Nov, 10:16, MIG wrote:

On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:

I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.


The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney Station at
05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10 at 05:21.


The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much better
than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone done that sort
of thing and agree or otherwise?


Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square would
be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at 05:44, a very
similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


I haven't checked the journey planner for those times, but I'd always
assume Vauxhall and Victoria Line for getting from Putney to Euston.


Normally but perhaps not that early in the morning.

First trains Putney to Vauxhall are 0529 arrive 0541 and then the next
is 0551 arrive 0603 which would be cutting it incredibly fine!

Vic line trains from Vauxhall are timetabled at 0530, 0545 and 0600 -
so if the mainline train arrived on time and then one moved quick and
caught the 0545 tube train all would be good, but it doesn't leave any
margin for error.

With the bus there's another route 14 from Putney at 0518 arrival at
Warren Street 0604 or earlier, and also an N10 that takes departs
Putnet at 0521 and takes a different and more direct route through
town which continues past Warren Street to Euston itself arriving at
0557. If needs be I'd take the first of these that came to get up to
Warren Street.

Mizter T November 7th 08 06:32 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 

On 7 Nov, 18:45, wrote:
Personally I would try the tube option first. *If the 0503 did not
turn up I would go and catch the 0518 bus giving the best of both
options


But the tube goes from East Putney station, which is some way away
from Putney High Street where the bus goes from. It's an either or
situation.

Mizter T November 7th 08 06:37 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 

On 7 Nov, 18:57, "Peter Smyth" wrote:

wrote:

I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.


The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney
Station at
05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10 at 05:21.


The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much
better
than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone done that
sort
of thing and agree or otherwise?


Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square
would
be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at 05:44, a
very
similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


The timetable can be found athttp://www.londonbusroutes.net/times/014.htm

It seems the 0503 arrives at Warren Street at 0531 not 0521. 28 minutes
for ~7 miles seems reasonable enough at that time of the morning.


The 0521 that the OP mentioned is the departure time of the N10 bus
from Putney to Euston (direct), which departs from the same stops as
the 14 on Putney High Street (stops A, M and S).

I think the scheduled time is perfectly reasonable, there isn't much
traffic at that time of day so you just whizz right through town.

[email protected] November 7th 08 07:33 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:
I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.

The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney
Station at 05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10
at 05:21.

The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much
better than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone
done that sort of thing and agree or otherwise?

Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square
would be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at
05:44, a very similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


I haven't checked the journey planner for those times, but I'd always
assume Vauxhall and Victoria Line for getting from Putney to Euston.


Not to get to Euston by 6, it would appear.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] November 7th 08 09:47 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:
I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.

The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney
Station at 05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10
at 05:21.

The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much
better than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone
done that sort of thing and agree or otherwise?

Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square
would be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at
05:44, a very similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


I'd have no qualms at all about getting the bus at that time of day.
Early morning buses are quick thanks to the lack of traffic and
relatively light loading, and I've always found buses around that time
of day to be reliable and to broadly keep to timetable. Another plus
in the reliability stakes is that the 14 starts just up the road at
the Green Man so one can be even more confident about the stated time
for its arrival at your stop on Putney High Street. (If anything I'd
advise that you are there 5 minutes early, just in case.)

The Underground might be fine, but there is the added factor of it
involving two different trains courtesy of a change from the District
to the Circle at High Street Ken. The sub-surface lines, as we all
know, do have a tendency do get the hiccups rather easily, especially
the Circle line - also I might be wary of problems with the first
trains of the day, though perhaps my wariness is unjustified.


Yes, I did wonder if it wouldn't be safer to stick on the District to
Edgware Road to give a choice of H&C and Circle for a bit more resilience.
But I didn't check the early morning H&C timetable.

Nonetheless the bus is timetabled to be quicker that the Underground
so I reckon I'd go with that.


I think you've convinced me to go for the bus. The bus is also cheaper, of
course (I'll probably be using Oyster PAYG). ;-)

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] November 7th 08 09:47 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

On 7 Nov, 10:16, MIG wrote:

On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:

I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.


The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney
Station at 05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10
at 05:21.


The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much
better than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone
done that sort of thing and agree or otherwise?


Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square
would be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at
05:44, a very similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


I haven't checked the journey planner for those times, but I'd always
assume Vauxhall and Victoria Line for getting from Putney to Euston.


Normally but perhaps not that early in the morning.

First trains Putney to Vauxhall are 0529 arrive 0541 and then the next
is 0551 arrive 0603 which would be cutting it incredibly fine!

Vic line trains from Vauxhall are timetabled at 0530, 0545 and 0600 -
so if the mainline train arrived on time and then one moved quick and
caught the 0545 tube train all would be good, but it doesn't leave any
margin for error.


That's what I figured and therefore discarded the idea.

With the bus there's another route 14 from Putney at 0518 arrival at
Warren Street 0604 or earlier, and also an N10 that takes departs
Putnet at 0521 and takes a different and more direct route through
town which continues past Warren Street to Euston itself arriving at
0557. If needs be I'd take the first of these that came to get up to
Warren Street.


Thanks. The 14/N10 combination does look the safest option, as long as the
running times are fairly robust, which is what I was hoping to get some
evidence on here.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

MIG November 7th 08 10:55 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
On Nov 7, 8:33*pm, wrote:
In article
,





(MIG) wrote:
On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:
I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.


The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney
Station at 05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10
at 05:21.


The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much
better than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone
done that sort of thing and agree or otherwise?


Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston Square
would be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston Square at
05:44, a very similar time to the bus, if not slightly later.


I haven't checked the journey planner for those times, but I'd always
assume Vauxhall and Victoria Line for getting from Putney to Euston.


Not to get to Euston by 6, it would appear.



Yar, the earliness seems to favour the bus option, now that I check it
out. I'm a bit surprised by the slow start on the Victoria Line
though.

[email protected] November 7th 08 11:09 PM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On Nov 7, 8:33*pm, wrote:
In article
,
(MIG) wrote:
On 7 Nov, 01:26, wrote:
I'm planning to get the 06:20 to Manchester next Thursday.


The best way to get there appears to be to get a 14 from Putney
Station at 05:03 or 05:18 and walk from the Warren St stop or N10
at 05:21.


The bus running times at that time of the morning seem to be much
better than standard, according to the TfL journey planner. Anyone
done that sort of thing and agree or otherwise?


Maybe the District & Circle Lines from East Putney to Euston
Square would be better? First train at 05:03 gets me to Euston
Square at 05:44, a very similar time to the bus, if not
slightly later.


I haven't checked the journey planner for those times, but I'd
always assume Vauxhall and Victoria Line for getting from Putney to
Euston.


Not to get to Euston by 6, it would appear.


Yar, the earliness seems to favour the bus option, now that I check it
out. I'm a bit surprised by the slow start on the Victoria Line though.


Yes, surprised me too.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] November 13th 08 05:11 AM

Getting an early morning train at Euston from Putney
 
In article ,
() wrote:

I think you've convinced me to go for the bus. The bus is also
cheaper, of course (I'll probably be using Oyster PAYG). ;-)


Worked like a dream. I gave myself plenty of time to get the 14 bus 05:03
departure from Putney Station, so much so that I actually caught the N10
04:50 departure. This had the advantage of avoiding a walk from Warren St
to Euston and delivered me to an almost deserted Euston at 05:30, just in
time for the 06:20's platform to be announced.

An interesting tour of West London haunts I've not seen for decades. The
N10 does take a bit of a Cooks' tour, mind. The main cause of delay at the
time of morning seems to be traffic lights, and it isn't just cyclists who
jump red lights then, I see.

I didn't realise they had cleared away all the kiosks on the Euston
concourse!

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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