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Constant anouncements on London Buses
Is it just me or does anyone else find travelling on any London bus now
COMPLETELY HIDEOUS? Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... The drivers must be driven to distraction now having to listen to this **** all day long, on top of all the other noise pollution (such as beep, beep beeping doors and screeching children). A reply to my recent enquiry/complaint to London Buses about it says more "alight her for (places of interest) will be added to the existing frequent recorded announcements on all buses by 2009". So basically, too many intrusive loud announcements on every bus already and more to be added next year. And this is called 'progress' ????!!!! :O( |
Constant anouncements on London Buses
On 9 Nov, 15:27, "John Holt" wrote: Is it just me or does anyone else find travelling on any London bus now COMPLETELY HIDEOUS? Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... The drivers must be driven to distraction now having to listen to this **** all day long, on top of all the other noise pollution (such as beep, beep beeping doors and screeching children). A reply to my recent enquiry/complaint to London Buses about it says more "alight her for (places of interest) will be added to the existing frequent recorded announcements on all buses by 2009". So basically, too many intrusive loud announcements on every bus already and more to be added next year. And this is called 'progress' ????!!!! :O( Continuing his drive for 'taxpayer value' Mayor Boris has announced that companies will have the opportunity to sponsor bus stops and advertise their wares on-board buses via the PA system - e.g. "alight here for the Harrod's Half-Price sale, where a pack of Harrod's HB pencils can now be yours for under a hundred pounds". Rumours that companies might be allowed to sponsor entire routes have not been denied. |
Constant anouncements on London Buses
"John Holt" wrote ...
Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... Do what the regulars do - ignore it. After the first few trips, you won't even notice, and they are useful for tourists and others. I don't know which route you take, but on the many routes I travel, they are not as frequent as you state. Or get an iPod? -- Andrew |
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Mizter T wrote:
Continuing his drive for 'taxpayer value' Mayor Boris has announced that companies will have the opportunity to sponsor bus stops and advertise their wares on-board buses via the PA system - e.g. "alight here for the Harrod's Half-Price sale, where a pack of Harrod's HB pencils can now be yours for under a hundred pounds". Rumours that companies might be allowed to sponsor entire routes have not been denied. That's daft. It's not daft just to announce the next stop, however, in fact it's very useful if you're on a crowded bus in the rain and can't see out clearly. It does have to be mentioned IIRC that the Viacom Tube advertising contract (which includes the digital moving display stuff) apparently paid for the bus fares to be kept down to 90p. If Boris wants to use advertising revenue to keep fares down, that's fine by me, but everything that's come out says he's going to put fares up above inflation every year, so presumably you'll pay more to get blasted with advertising. Add that to the complete lack of investment in developing new projects and I think we're in the process of being taken for a ride here - it's not as if TfL is even funded by London taxpayers, it's general taxation subsidy plus fare income. If Conservative policy is that they're not interested in creating a better transport system why are the fares going up? Is Boris under orders to hand back some of the £40bn TfL settlement to a future Conservative Chancellor for national tax cuts, or something? Tom |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:27:49 -0000, "John Holt"
wrote: And this is called 'progress' ????!!!! Yes. It's very useful to those who don't use buses frequently, aren't familiar with the route or aren't paying attention to where they are and reading the paper. Or, for that matter, those who are blind. The only thing I'd change about it is to have the route announcement either removed or only announced every few stops, as it's that (not the stop announcements) that does grate a bit. On-board stop displays and announcements have been used for years in mainland Europe, and it was about time they made it to the UK. More, please. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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"Neil Williams" wrote in message ... On-board stop displays and announcements have been used for years in mainland Europe, and it was about time they made it to the UK. More, please. What we *really* want is to replace the front destination blind with a nice big LED display. |
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In message , John Holt
writes Is it just me or does anyone else find travelling on any London bus now COMPLETELY HIDEOUS? Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... On the 33, the route I use most often, the announcements are almost too quiet to hear, so I imagine there must be a volume control. Have you tried asking the driver if it can be adjusted? -- Paul Terry |
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"Q" ..@.. wrote in message ...
"Neil Williams" wrote in message ... On-board stop displays and announcements have been used for years in mainland Europe, and it was about time they made it to the UK. More, please. What we *really* want is to replace the front destination blind with a nice big LED display. Not always useful! I ran across the forecourt at London Bridge last week to jump on what I assumed to be a 149 (bendy) to Liverpool St, only to find the internal display said "521 to Waterloo". I slunk off shamefacedly feeling like a tourist. MaxB |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:27:49 -0000, "John Holt"
wrote: Is it just me or does anyone else find travelling on any London bus now COMPLETELY HIDEOUS? Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... The drivers must be driven to distraction now having to listen to this **** all day long, on top of all the other noise pollution (such as beep, beep beeping doors and screeching children). A reply to my recent enquiry/complaint to London Buses about it says more "alight her for (places of interest) will be added to the existing frequent recorded announcements on all buses by 2009". So basically, too many intrusive loud announcements on every bus already and more to be added next year. And this is called 'progress' ????!!!! :O( Is it not a Disability Discrimination Act requirement? It means those visually impaired will know where and when to get off. |
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I just really don't see the point in the "29 ... to ... Leicester
Square" announcement every stop. This seems like something they should play on the outside of the bus. The people already on the bus know where it's going! |
Constant anouncements on London Buses
On 9 Nov, 19:09, "Q" ..@.. wrote: "Neil Williams" wrote: On-board stop displays and announcements have been used for years in mainland Europe, and it was about time they made it to the UK. *More, please. What we *really* want is to replace the front destination blind with a nice big LED display. We do, do we? Err... why do we want this? |
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In message , John Holt
writes Is it just me or does anyone else find travelling on any London bus now COMPLETELY HIDEOUS? And this is called 'progress' ????!!!! I feel the same about the beeping before the doors close on the Tube. It's easy to understand why the jobs worths at TFL think audible warning and information are a good idea. i.e. Little old ladies get caught in the doors less and get off at the right stop more often :-) But I think they underestimate the effect of noise pollution in an already noisy world. Like you I find most bus journeys of more than a couple of stops very unpleasant. But lets face it buses have been little more than 4 wheeled drop in centres for years :-) -- Edward Cowling "'Cause onces a good girl goes bad We gone forever" |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message ... On 9 Nov, 19:09, "Q" ..@.. wrote: What we *really* want is to replace the front destination blind with a nice big LED display. We do, do we? Err... why do we want this? So that on cold wind swept evenings while waiting at a stop which serves 6 buses all of which have non working front blind illumination we don't miss the one we want... And the LED displays are much clearer than the paper blinds - and LED's don't fade in the sun, and don't require a back-light |
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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote
I feel the same about the beeping before the doors close on the Tube. It's easy to understand why the jobs worths at TFL think audible warning and information are a good idea. i.e. Little old ladies get caught in the doors less and get off at the right stop more often :-) But I think they underestimate the effect of noise pollution in an already noisy world. Like you I find most bus journeys of more than a couple of stops very unpleasant. But lets face it buses have been little more than 4 wheeled drop in centres for years :-) Easy to sneer now; but you'll be a little old lady one day, and may be grateful for some of the annoying safety features. And it's easy to blame 'jobsworths', while European law is behind most, and UK law accounts for the rest. My guess is is that TfL cares for the less fit and able no more than you do. Sad old world, but there ya go. -- Andrew |
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Errr,Q Have you visited Edinburgh lately..?
Fleet full of absolutely sparkling and totally legible white-on-black "traditional" scrolls,even the 10 year old buses readable at a distance. Crisp white backlights AND many vehicles with Side and Rear displays showing the End Destination also. All backed up with Parisian style interior rolling "Next Stop" digital panels on the newer vehicles. Crikey,the canny Scots even had "Rugby Special" panels for the Murrayfield specials on the Via scroll. Then for the really inquisitive traveller Lothian resort to slide-in boards attached to the front panel for odd workings/intermediate destinations. IMHO Lothians standard should be adopted by the Industry generally as THE one to aim for. PS: An Edinburgh trip also allows direct side-by-side comparison between a 10 year old Lothian "Paper" scroll and a sparkling new First Group LED with a lenghty Scots placename squeezed into the available space so that its impossible to differentiate between the numbers and the letters. |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:01:05 -0800 (PST), sweek
wrote: I just really don't see the point in the "29 ... to ... Leicester Square" announcement every stop. This seems like something they should play on the outside of the bus. The people already on the bus know where it's going! I suppose it is to that anyone boarding knows they are on the right bus. But you have a point. If the bus stop has a visual display maybe there should be announcements also. Could be a bit annoying for anyone living next to a bus stop though! |
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In message , Andrew Heenan
writes stops very unpleasant. But lets face it buses have been little more than 4 wheeled drop in centres for years :-) Easy to sneer now; but you'll be a little old lady one day, Oh no I won't !! There may be lots of things getting cut off during the recession, but my balls won't be one of them :-) -- Edward Cowling "'Cause onces a good girl goes bad We gone forever" |
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"Alek Smart." wrote in message ... Errr,Q Have you visited Edinburgh lately..? Not for a while now no, and the last time I did and used a bus it was a different experience (not knowing how much it cost for a night bus didn't help) Fleet full of absolutely sparkling and totally legible white-on-black "traditional" scrolls,even the 10 year old buses readable at a distance. The ones we have here start there life as bright yellow on black and fade somewhat. Crisp white backlights AND many vehicles with Side and Rear displays showing the End Destination also. The last time I waited in the city for a night bus of the 5 that arrived at the same time, only 1 had a working back-light. I don't know if the others had a fault, or where just switched off. All backed up with Parisian style interior rolling "Next Stop" digital panels on the newer vehicles. Crikey,the canny Scots even had "Rugby Special" panels for the Murrayfield specials on the Via scroll. I have seen some funny things displayed on buses in London including 'Nottingham' many years ago on one of my then local routes. The displays used by one of the tourist routes are more what I was thinking. A big LED number and final destination, with either a fixed 'via' or scrolling. |
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 05:15:08PM +0000, Neil Williams wrote:
Yes. It's very useful to those who don't use buses frequently, aren't familiar with the route or aren't paying attention to where they are and reading the paper. Or, for that matter, those who are blind. The only thing I'd change about it is to have the route announcement either removed or only announced every few stops, as it's that (not the stop announcements) that does grate a bit. I'd make several changes. 1) instead of saying "Foo Street" say "the next stop is Foo Street" 2) instead of saying "the destination of this bus has changed" say "the destination of this bus has changed to Foo" 3) instead of saying "Denmark Street" say "Denmark Street, Charing Cross Road" (and similar for other stops which aren't actually on the street they're named after, or which are named for a nearby building). and get rid of the ones telling you what route you're on and where it's going entirely. You already know that before you get on the bus. Someone I mentioned number 3 to a few weeks ago said it would be confusing. Well, if it is, then I suppose that Dean St, Chinatown and Green Park, Constitution Hill need changing. No doubt there are others. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic All children should be aptitude-tested at an early age and, if their main or only aptitude is for marketing, drowned. |
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"David Cantrell" wrote:
3) instead of saying "Denmark Street" say "Denmark Street, Charing Cross Road" (and similar for other stops which aren't actually on the street they're named after, or which are named for a nearby building). Someone I mentioned number 3 to a few weeks ago said it would be confusing. Well, if it is, then I suppose that Dean St, Chinatown and Green Park, Constitution Hill need changing. No doubt there are others. I think it needs to be 'on their merits' (as it currently is). In many cases a cross street or area can be helpful - but not always. Another anomoly is where a route reaches a 'focal point' - for example, the 393 from Chalk Farm eventually reaches 'Holloway Road, Nag's Head', then turns right and proceeds to 'Holloway Road, Nag's Head'. I keep meaning to check whether the buses heading from Archway to Highbury Corner (271, 43; North-South) do the same thing. -- Andrew |
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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
... On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:27:49 -0000, "John Holt" wrote: And this is called 'progress' ????!!!! Yes. It's very useful to those who don't use buses frequently, aren't familiar with the route or aren't paying attention to where they are and reading the paper. Or, for that matter, those who are blind. The only thing I'd change about it is to have the route announcement either removed or only announced every few stops, as it's that (not the stop announcements) that does grate a bit. On-board stop displays and announcements have been used for years in mainland Europe, and it was about time they made it to the UK. More, please. Neil I have noticed sometimes that the displays will be working, but that there is no sound, and I have often wondered if this is because drivers had had enough of hearing the announcements and decided to switch it off. BTW, why is there a pause on some of the bendibusses between when you push the button and hearing the bell and seeing the acknowledge sign light up? That was not the case in earlier days and it is currently not the case on all bendibus lines. |
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sweek wrote I just really don't see the point in the "29 ... to ... Leicester Square" announcement every stop. This seems like something they should display on the outside of the bus. The people already on the bus know where it's going! They may *think* they know - and be mistaken. Does every London bus now have route number and direction on the front, back and over every entrance ? Buses that will turn short of the usual destination and buses in opposite directions that call at the same stop are a particular problem. -- Mike D |
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On 9 Nov, 15:27, "John Holt" wrote:
Is it just me or does anyone else find travelling on any London bus now COMPLETELY HIDEOUS? Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... The drivers must be driven to distraction now having to listen to this **** all day long, on top of all the other noise pollution (such as beep, beep beeping doors and screeching children). A reply to my recent enquiry/complaint to London Buses about it says more "alight her for (places of interest) will be added to the existing frequent recorded announcements on all buses by 2009". So basically, too many intrusive loud announcements on every bus already and more to be added next year. And this is called 'progress' ????!!!! :O( I really like them, I don't find them that intrusive, especially when she says 'Seats are available on the upper deck', as the morons on my local route, 417, are frightened of stairs it seems and bunch around the front doors. She also drowns out the sound from leaking headphones, which is much more of a distraction. |
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On Nov 11, 10:01*am, Stephen Furley wrote:
On 11/11/08 08:20, in article , "Railist" wrote: I really like them, I don't find them that intrusive, especially when she says 'Seats are available on the upper deck', as the morons on my local route, 417, are frightened of stairs it seems and bunch around the front doors. She also drowns out the sound from leaking headphones, which is much more of a distraction. I find they're a bit loud on some buses. Does anybody have a full list of the announcements available, other than the route, destination and next stop? I've heard: 'Bus will wait here whilst drivers are changed' 'Bus will wait here for a few minutes in order to help regulate the service' 'The next bus stop is closed' And a couple of others that I can't remember. I anecdoted in the past that I was on a 21 in the Old Kent Road which, every time it was displaying "21 to Lewisham Centre" actually announced "Crystal Palace" (although it was correct at announcing the stops on the approach). A place name on its own doesn't even seem to be a normal announcement. (Has New Cross garage got any routes that even go to Crystal Palace?) I conjectured that "Crystal Palace" must be the default announcment that is recorded over ... |
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MIG wrote:
On Nov 11, 10:01 am, Stephen Furley wrote: On 11/11/08 08:20, in article , "Railist" wrote: I really like them, I don't find them that intrusive, especially when she says 'Seats are available on the upper deck', as the morons on my local route, 417, are frightened of stairs it seems and bunch around the front doors. She also drowns out the sound from leaking headphones, which is much more of a distraction. I find they're a bit loud on some buses. Does anybody have a full list of the announcements available, other than the route, destination and next stop? I've heard: 'Bus will wait here whilst drivers are changed' 'Bus will wait here for a few minutes in order to help regulate the service' 'The next bus stop is closed' And a couple of others that I can't remember. I anecdoted in the past that I was on a 21 in the Old Kent Road which, every time it was displaying "21 to Lewisham Centre" actually announced "Crystal Palace" (although it was correct at announcing the stops on the approach). A place name on its own doesn't even seem to be a normal announcement. (Has New Cross garage got any routes that even go to Crystal Palace?) Not that I can think of, in fact I cannot think of any bus that even passes the garage that goes there. I conjectured that "Crystal Palace" must be the default announcment that is recorded over ... you do get some funny ones sometimes, I was on a 484 a few weeks ago which suddenly announced that there were more seats available on the upper deck, unfortunately being a single decker we were unable to access said upper deck, the bus only had a few people on board, we were all in fits of laughter, including the driver, who apparently had no control over the content of the messages. -- Martin replies to newsgroup only please. |
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"Scott" wrote in message
... On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:01:05 -0800 (PST), sweek wrote: I just really don't see the point in the "29 ... to ... Leicester Square" announcement every stop. This seems like something they should play on the outside of the bus. The people already on the bus know where it's going! I suppose it is to that anyone boarding knows they are on the right bus. But you have a point. If the bus stop has a visual display maybe there should be announcements also. Could be a bit annoying for anyone living next to a bus stop though! It actually is. I have a friend who lived in the United States and whose window is just outside a bus stop. A few years back, he started hearing Route 2 ... to ... XXX. And it hasn't stopped since. Fortunately, they are not as big on public transport in the United States as in Europe, so the announcements don't happen as frequently. |
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On 9 Nov, 16:55, "Andrew Heenan" wrote:
"John Holt" wrote ... Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... Do what the regulars do - ignore it. After the first few trips, you won't even notice, and they are useful for tourists and others. I don't know which route you take, but on the many routes I travel, they are not as frequent as you state. Or get an iPod? Did you even read the text you quoted? no escape from it, **even with earphones in** to attempt to drown out the background hell... The correct solution of course is to get a bike and avoid te disgusting dangerous things (buses and ipods really) |
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"Paul Weaver" wrote...
Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... Do what the regulars do - ignore it. After the first few trips, you won't even notice, and they are useful for tourists and others. I don't know which route you take, but on the many routes I travel, they are not as frequent as you state. Or get an iPod? Did you even read the text you quoted? Yes, thanks - but when I respond to the ramblings of an idiot, I try to take events in the real world into consideration. I repeat: Do what the regulars do - ignore it. After the first few trips, you won't even notice. [added: unless you choose to make a mission out of it] They are not as frequent as you state. -- Andrew |
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On 11 Nov, 18:43, "Andrew Heenan" wrote:
"Paul Weaver" wrote... Constant, loud, intrusive and unnecessary recorded announcements blasted out every 15-20 seconds and no escape from it, even with earphones in to attempt to drown out the background hell... Do what the regulars do - ignore it. After the first few trips, you won't even notice, and they are useful for tourists and others. I don't know which route you take, but on the many routes I travel, they are not as frequent as you state. Or get an iPod? Did you even read the text you quoted? Yes, thanks - but when I respond to the ramblings of an idiot, I try to take events in the real world into consideration. I repeat: Do what the regulars do - ignore it. After the first few trips, you won't even notice. [added: unless you choose to make a mission out of it] They are not as frequent as you state. I dont state any frequencies, buses are a distress purchase, however the OP has already stated that earphones don't work. The problem is with your suggestion that spending £200 on a fashion accessory will somehow make them work. |
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On 11 Nov, 21:39, Paul Weaver wrote: [...] buses are a distress purchase [...] Disagree most strongly in the case of London, although absolutely acknowledge that fellow fellow passengers are capable of making journeys distressing. |
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"Paul Weaver" wrote :
I dont state any frequencies, buses are a distress purchase, however the OP has already stated that earphones don't work. The problem is with your suggestion that spending £200 on a fashion accessory will somehow make them work. Sure, he did state that headphones don't work; he must have weird hearing or - more likely - he's making it up as he goes along. If an iPhone costs so much (I wouldn't know - I don't buy fashion accessories), then a standard MP3 player or a cassette player at £9 or less will suffice. Batteries not included. Or a good book. Alternatively, he could stop foaming at the mouth and exaggerating both noise level and frequency of announcements and get a life. Sadly, however, we have to live with the fact that there's no cure for rabies. -- Andrew |
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:01:43AM +0000, Stephen Furley wrote:
'The next bus stop is closed' That one *really* needs to be automated so that drivers can't forget to tell passengers. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg and egg whites, whisk, and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes. |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:07:59 -0000, "Q" ..@.. wrote:
And the LED displays are much clearer than the paper blinds Disagree. The one thing I hate about the D stock refurb is that the destination is much harder to read from a distance. |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:30:40 +0000, David Cantrell
wrote: On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 05:15:08PM +0000, Neil Williams wrote: Yes. It's very useful to those who don't use buses frequently, aren't familiar with the route or aren't paying attention to where they are and reading the paper. Or, for that matter, those who are blind. The only thing I'd change about it is to have the route announcement either removed or only announced every few stops, as it's that (not the stop announcements) that does grate a bit. I'd make several changes. 1) instead of saying "Foo Street" say "the next stop is Foo Street" I would agree, except that you know it would go "the next stop is big pause Foo Street"... 2) instead of saying "the destination of this bus has changed" say "the destination of this bus has changed to Foo" Absolutely. The one time that happened to me I had to ask the driver because we were stuck in traffic and hence weren't going to reach a stop for a while. 3) instead of saying "Denmark Street" say "Denmark Street, Charing Cross Road" (and similar for other stops which aren't actually on the street they're named after, or which are named for a nearby building). The announcements match the name of the stop as displayed on the flag. There are some two-part stop names; if you have suggestions for renaming of particular stops to avoid confusion in those cases, I'm sure TfL would consider them. and get rid of the ones telling you what route you're on and where it's going entirely. You already know that before you get on the bus. True. What I would do is add an external speaker to announce the route umber and destination to passengers waiting to board. That would help blind passengers, and possibly others. OTOH, it might **** off residents... Someone I mentioned number 3 to a few weeks ago said it would be confusing. Well, if it is, then I suppose that Dean St, Chinatown and Green Park, Constitution Hill need changing. No doubt there are others. I have to say, I love iBus. When I travel somewhere for the first time, I get the stop name I need to get off at, and just wait for it to be announced. What it is doesn't necessarily matter. |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:21:12 -0800 (PST), MIG
wrote: I anecdoted in the past that [...] You're verbing! Verbing weirds language... |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:01:43 +0000, Stephen Furley
wrote: Does anybody have a full list of the announcements available, other than the route, destination and next stop? I've heard: 'Bus will wait here whilst drivers are changed' 'Bus will wait here for a few minutes in order to help regulate the service' 'The next bus stop is closed' And a couple of others that I can't remember. Seats are available on the upper deck (as someone else mentioned). No standing on the upper deck or stairs. I think I'v heard no smoking and cctv messages too, though I could be confused with something else. What there needs to be is a "no playing music out loud" - I was driven off the upper deck of a 65 the other week by an antisocial ******* playing tinny music on a mobile (who was utterly unaware of why I was glaring at him!) - I asked the driver if he had such a message to play but he denied it. |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:45:36 +0000, James Farrar
wrote: I would agree, except that you know it would go "the next stop is big pause Foo Street"... And "the next stop" would get annoying. Originally, they used to say "Route NN to XX", and the "Route" was dropped, presumably for that reason. I have to say, I love iBus. When I travel somewhere for the first time, I get the stop name I need to get off at, and just wait for it to be announced. What it is doesn't necessarily matter. I like it as well. It's one of the best things you can do to buses to make them accessible to blind people, people who don't know the route and people who just want to read the paper and not look out of the window. A massive leap for passenger-friendliness, though admittedly well behind the rest of Europe who've had it for years. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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On 10 Nov, 21:48, wrote:
BTW, why is there a pause on some of the bendibusses between when you push the button and hearing the bell and seeing the acknowledge sign light up? That was not the case in earlier days and it is currently not the case on all bendibus lines. I *think* it's because the bell pushes aren't connected to a relay like they are in a traditional bus, but instead are multiplexed. It might even be iBus that controls it, but I'm not sure. It's also the case on the Enviros that do the 135 to Canary Wharf (by far the most civilised way of getting there that you don't have to pay extra for). Neil |
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