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Paul Scott January 22nd 09 02:50 PM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 

"THC" wrote in message
...
My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


A repetitive 'Mind the Gap' as per for example the Waterloo Bakerloo
platforms is rare, but certainly in the SWT area, 'Mind the gap' is an
integral part of platform announcements at a fair number of stations, as is
'Mind the step down from the train' in on train announcements. Certainly
occurs widely enough not to be considered unusual.

Paul S



[email protected] January 22nd 09 06:08 PM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message
,
at 01:26:12 on Thu, 22 Jan 2009, THC
remarked:
My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham

Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


On the Midland Mainline there are several stations where the guards
announce "mind the gap between the train and the platform edge".


That seems to be a general line on National Rail lines now.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Graculus January 22nd 09 06:09 PM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 
"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...

"THC" wrote in message
...
My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


A repetitive 'Mind the Gap' as per for example the Waterloo Bakerloo
platforms is rare, but certainly in the SWT area, 'Mind the gap' is an
integral part of platform announcements at a fair number of stations, as
is 'Mind the step down from the train' in on train announcements.
Certainly occurs widely enough not to be considered unusual.


SWT are obsessed with announcements all the time on and off the train. It
gets really annoying (though they'll claim they have to keep telling you to
read the safety notices.)


Jeremy Parker January 22nd 09 06:28 PM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 


In article ,
(Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message
,
at 01:26:12 on Thu, 22 Jan 2009, THC
remarked:
My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm
pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham

Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step
off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples
of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the
UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


I seem to recall reading that some Americanisms came over with
Chicago financier Yerkes, who founded a London tube/bus empire at the
beginning of the 20th century, after having to leave Chicago under a
cloud, because of something to do with financing the Chicago El'.

Wasn't there one of his minions, an ex and restored Brit' from New
Jersey, who became Lord Stanley?

Jeremy Parker



[email protected] January 22nd 09 06:52 PM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 

(eg, the Central Bank platforms).


As well as the bends, ISTR the west end of the westbound platform
drops down, leaving the large vertical gap that I noticed on my way
towards the floor of the carriage, having tripped over the step...

Bob Harris January 22nd 09 07:56 PM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 
"Graculus" wrote in message
...
"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...

"THC" wrote in message
...
My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


A repetitive 'Mind the Gap' as per for example the Waterloo Bakerloo
platforms is rare, but certainly in the SWT area, 'Mind the gap' is an
integral part of platform announcements at a fair number of stations, as
is 'Mind the step down from the train' in on train announcements.
Certainly occurs widely enough not to be considered unusual.


SWT are obsessed with announcements all the time on and off the train. It
gets really annoying (though they'll claim they have to keep telling you
to read the safety notices.)


e.g. at Woking. They will have a routine announcement such as "Weekend
travel information from South West Trains..." which goes on at length
detailing what buses etc. you will need at the weekend. However, if a train
comes in before it has finished (quite frequently at Woking) it will cut
that off and come straight in with "Platform 4 for the xx:xx....". Then a
few seconds later you will be treated to the weekend travel information
again (from the start). However, if a train then comes in.... you get the
picture.



Daniel Smith January 22nd 09 10:38 PM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 
Grant wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
On the Midland Mainline there are several stations where the guards
announce "mind the gap between the train and the platform edge".


And "mind the gap" is painted on the platform edge at Market Harborough.

Mind you, less of a gap and more of a jump. There must be 18" vertical
between step and platform. How come the two are so far out of alignment?



chester has the words painted on the edge (you can see to varients, one
saying "Please mind the gap "and the other just "mind the gap" one has
been blacked out and the other written on top but i cant remember which
way round,

also on the mml routes the guard often announces it as "please take care
when leaving the train and mind the gap between the train and the
platform edge"

[email protected] January 23rd 09 03:55 AM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 
On Jan 22, 10:26*am, THC wrote:
My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!

THC


Yes it is indeed used elsewhere. On the New York subway a derivative
of "Mind the gap" in the form of "Mind da gap mon" is often used. Also
to altert pasengers to the iminent closure of the doors "Stand clear a
da clozin dawz, pleeze" is usually announced.

Paul

John Dennis January 23rd 09 04:52 AM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 
On Jan 22, 9:50*pm, "David Bennetts"
wrote:
"THC" wrote in message

...

My wife wants to know whether "Mind the Gap" as used on London
Underground is used on railways, metros outside London (I'm pretty
certain that announcements are made on Platform 17 at Clapham Junction
- the phrase is certainly picked out in white paint as you step off
the train) but for the life of me I can't think of any examples of
seeing it written or hearing it on PA systems elsewhere in the UK.
I'd be grateful for any examples, o wise ones!


THC


It is used in various places worldwide, including Sydney. *Though apparently
in the USA you don't mind it, you watch it.
Seehttp://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Mind_the_gap
For the Sydney example seehttp://www.cityrail.info/training_rules/training_rules.jsp

I was intrigued when visiting New York a couple of years back with the "gap
filler" arrangements at South Ferry subway station, which was on an
extremely sharp curve and could only handle the front half of a train. *I
believe the station has just been rebuilt to eliminate this curve. *Seehttp://www.nycsubway.org/perl/stations?6:2678

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia


Do they actually make an announcement in Sydney? I've never heard it,
but then again I am an infrequent visitor.

John

David Hansen January 23rd 09 07:10 AM

How widespread is usage of "Mind the Gap"?
 
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:56:04 GMT someone who may be "Bob Harris"
wrote this:-

e.g. at Woking. They will have a routine announcement such as "Weekend
travel information from South West Trains..." which goes on at length
detailing what buses etc. you will need at the weekend. However, if a train
comes in before it has finished (quite frequently at Woking) it will cut
that off and come straight in with "Platform 4 for the xx:xx....".


If they would do the same thing with television sets displaying
so-called security messages, engineering information and, very
occasionally, where the next train is going to that would be great.



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54


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