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Old February 17th 09, 03:51 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default East London Line phase 2b to Clapham Jn is GO!

On Feb 17, 12:27*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote:
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I still think the ELLX phase 2 will be
packed full starting at Clapham Junction - the appeal of being able to
just take one train (no exhanges to other trains) - and an air-
conditioned train - all the way to either the City (Shoreditch), or
Canada Water (just 1 stop from Canary Wharf) has enormous appeal. *I
think the ELLX is a wonderful gift to those of us who live near
Clapham Junction.


I'm sure it will be popular, though I still think that, except perhaps for
two or three peak trains, it won't be packed to the point of discomfort.
Though I've just done some calculations - I think you're right that it will
be as quick for a journey to Canary Wharf, starting at Clapham Junction, as
going via Waterloo, and almost as quick to the City (assuming a final
destination equidistant from Bank and Shoreditch High Street, the last bit
being done on foot).

Peter


Peter, when looked at that way, I would say that commuters would pick
the ELLX over Waterloo hands-down every time - why? - because of 2
reasons: (1) the commuter would never choose to make the unpleasant
hike at Waterloo - just makes you get hot and sweaty, and (2) once you
are on the Waterloo & City line, you are no longer on an air-
conditioned train so why get off the air-conditioned ELLX??? Also,
that unpleasant hike at Waterloo - that is also done in an unair-
conditioned environment. Also, if one is working in the City, then
one could easily take one of the many buses at Shoreditch heading
towards Broadgate/Bishopsgate - getting buses at Bank is a pain in the
rear (not enough of them - streets are too narrow) and seems to take
time. Just my thoughts as a commuter.
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Default East London Line phase 2b to Clapham Jn is GO!

Hate to keep on posting, but the more that I think about it, I think
you are partially correct - the City worker that works around Bank and
west of there will choose your Waterloo/Bank route. But any City
worker that works anywhere along the buildings along Bishopsgate (and
that's where all the tall/large buildings are, think the Broadgate
complex, that new Heron Tower monstrosity (due to be the tallest
building in London, already under construction), the "Bishopsgate
Tower" now under construction, Tower 42, etc - they are all over by
Bishopsgate - or even further east (think the Gherkin Building (the
Pineapple building), the Commercial Union building, Lloyds of London,
etc) - if you don't want to hike, then a bus down Bishopsgate sounds
appealing.
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Default East London Line phase 2b to Clapham Jn is GO!

Commuters may also favour one train rather than two, even when the change is
fairly easy.
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