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In normal practice, the Finchley Rd - Wembley Park section is treated as
two separate lines, Jubilee on the inner tracks, Met on the outer.


Can they reroute the Met on the Jubilee in case of breakdowns?
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I believe except for London which has parallel trackage from Barons Court to
Acton Town and from Finchley Road to Wembley Park


to Moor Park, actually.

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"Oliver Keating" wrote in message ...
I am sorry but I disagree. I have ridden the tube every day, and I haven't
experienced a serious delay since three years ago when it took 45minutes to
travel 2 stops.

The problem is that a minority of dissatisfied customers will always speak
more loudly than the majority of satisfied ones, so come on speak up!


Well then you've been lucky mate, I get delayed by more than 20 mins at least
once a week. Still , on the bright side at least I'm building up a nice
collection of refund vouchers.


And besides the tube is only more expensive than other systems because tube
users actually pay for the real cost of the service. Which is how it should
be.


WHy should I have to pay so much for a PUBLIC service that allows me travel
to work so that i can earn money to PAY TAXES THAT FUND IT!?? Using your logic
we'd all have to pay £££ just to visit the doctor. Ok , not everything can
be funded by taxes but public services should be IMO and that includes the
tube. Since virtualy every other country does that (with some minimum fare
to keep out vagrants and top up the coffers) I suspect we are the ones who
need a rethink , not the rest of the world.

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Hi all and have patience with a newcomer.

I'm visiting London in a month -- for the first time -- and staying with a
friend who lives in Greenwich. Pondering the tube map from Heathrow, it appears
to be something like a 2-hour ride from the airport, to Green Park, to the
Jubilee line to South Greenwich. But then, I have no benchmark to judge how
long a ride it really is. Can anyone provide an estimate?

Being conditioned by New York subway maps, I have to admit the London schematic
map drives me nuts. I can't get a true sense of direction of how close a
station is to a landmark. Which leads to my next question ... do any geographic
maps of the tube exist? Where are they?

Well, it should be an eye-opener riding the London tube for the first time
after 3 years of living with New York subways. Anyone with experience commuting
on both transit systems who can venture opinions about the differences between
the two cities?

I've probably bothered you enough, but I welcome your opinions.

J


Look at
www.thetube.com and click on routefinder. It gives a rough
idea of journey times.
Regarding geographic tube maps, the best modern map of the central
area is at wwww.fourthway.co.uk - click on 'The Real Underground', and
have a look through the options in the popup window.

HTH
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Martin S. wrote:
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Look at www.thetube.com and click on routefinder. It gives a rough
idea of journey times.
Regarding geographic tube maps, the best modern map of the central
area is at wwww.fourthway.co.uk - click on 'The Real Underground',
and
have a look through the options in the popup window.

HTH



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who lives in Greenwich. Pondering the tube map from Heathrow, it appears
to be something like a 2-hour ride from the airport, to Green Park, to the
Jubilee line to South Greenwich.


It's "North Greenwich", which is nowhere near what the locals would call
Greenwich. The actual centre of Greenwich is between the Cutty Sark and
Greenwich DLR stations. But don't try changing from the Jubilee to DLR
at Canary Wharf because it's a long way to walk. It would be much better
to get an overground train to Greenwich (probably from Charing Cross,
walk from Embankment tube, having changed at Hammersmith).
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It's "North Greenwich", which is nowhere near what the locals would call
Greenwich. The actual centre of Greenwich is between the Cutty Sark and
Greenwich DLR stations. But don't try changing from the Jubilee to DLR
at Canary Wharf because it's a long way to walk. It would be much better
to get an overground train to Greenwich (probably from Charing Cross,
walk from Embankment tube, having changed at Hammersmith).


Yeah, I was thinking the overground train would be better since it
brings you quickly to Greenwich (town), and also Maze Hill. Though
I think most of them leave from Cannon Street, through London Bridge.
So that would be the District Line from Hammersmith to Cannon Street.
If you go to London Bridge then you're probably taking the Jubilee Line
anyway, so you might as well stay on and take a 188 bus from
North Greenwich.

I expect the overground trains aren't as tourist friendly as the tube.

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I expect the overground trains aren't as tourist friendly as the tube.


The commuter trains (as they are) are equally tourist friendly.
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Roland Perry wrote:

I expect the overground trains aren't as tourist friendly as the tube.


The commuter trains (as they are) are equally tourist friendly.


Well, for a start, the trains aren't nearly as frequent, they have a different
ticketing system, and the route maps aren't as well publicised or as well-known
as the tube. For example, it wasn't at all clear where the journey in question
here starts from (mostly).

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Roland Perry wrote:

I expect the overground trains aren't as tourist friendly as the tube.


The commuter trains (as they are) are equally tourist friendly.


Well, for a start, the trains aren't nearly as frequent,


Generally true, but does that matter very much for a tourist, rather
than someone-late-for-work? (Greenwich seems to have 6 tph to London,
although I accept that some are Cannon St, some Charing Cross. That's
more than many parts of the Metropolitan.)

they have a different ticketing system,


When did they stop taking travelcards?

and the route maps aren't as well publicised or as well-known as the
tube. For example, it wasn't at all clear where the journey in question
here starts from (mostly).


I was thinking more about the *trains* than the timetabling. eg Can you
get on and off them with luggage. Do the ones in that area stop at most
of the stations. And so on.
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