"Jonathan Morton"
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I've read that a 'steel framed box' is being built to allow building
work to proceed 24/7 around the running railway. No idea about the
signalling, although you would have to assume that the timescales
would allow some changes to be worthwhile.

What would it take to reset a starter signal to a standard wayside

Has anyone any idea where the displaced passengers have ended up,
the advice seems to be to either walk to Mansion House or Temple,

Whichever is closer, I supppose.

More or less the same distance, so Mansion House for eastbound, Temple
for westbound (District/Circle in both cases, of course).

But isn't Mansion House closed at weekends? And if so, wouldn't it be
a good idea to open it during the Blackfriars closure?

With Cannon Street also closed at weekends, it will be fast from
Temple to Monument :-)

Mansion House does not close at weekends, only Cannon Street.

Peter Smyth

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:09:50PM -0000, Paul Scott wrote:
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Since Blackfriars is going to be closed for a considerable length of time
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Has anyone any idea where the displaced passengers have ended up, the advice
seems to be to either walk to Mansion House or Temple, or stay on train
until City Thameslink.

City Thameslink? Errm? I thought Blackfriars NR was staying open for
Thameslink trains.

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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:09:50PM -0000, Paul Scott wrote:
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Since Blackfriars is going to be closed for a considerable length of
time
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Has anyone any idea where the displaced passengers have ended up, the
advice
seems to be to either walk to Mansion House or Temple, or stay on train
until City Thameslink.

City Thameslink? Errm? I thought Blackfriars NR was staying open for
Thameslink trains.

Of course, but I think they are just suggesting that for some people whose
NR journey terminated at Blackfriars with an underground leg onwards, it may
be a more straightforward walk from City T/L, and from the 23rd their
terminating train will run through anyway...

Their wording is:
"In actual fact, with all this building work and changes to the walking
routes outside the station, you’ll definitely be better off using City
Thameslink station instead. It won’t cost you any more to reach, it’s
enclosed, warmer and actually only a couple of hundred yards away. And from
22 March ALL northbound trains will call there – including the services from
Kent and south-east London that currently terminate at Blackfriars (see ‘New
services...’ below). That means, if you’re heading south to get home, you’re
more likely to get a seat from City Thameslink too!"

http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/cms/pages/view/40

Paul S

"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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Their wording is:
"In actual fact, with all this building work and changes to the walking
routes outside the station, you’ll definitely be better off using City
Thameslink station instead. It won’t cost you any more to reach, it’s
enclosed, warmer and actually only a couple of hundred yards away. And
from 22 March ALL northbound trains will call there – including the
services from Kent and south-east London that currently terminate at
Blackfriars (see ‘New services...’ below). That means, if you’re heading
south to get home, you’re more likely to get a seat from City Thameslink
too!"

http://www.thameslinkprogramme.co.uk/cms/pages/view/40

Paul S


Will trains that originally terminated at Blackfriars now be stabled and
turned at the depot west of City Thameslink? I forget what it is called.

wrote:

Since Blackfriars is going to be closed for a considerable length of
time, almost three years, will LUL put up partitions at the platform
edges and allow trains to run through there at speed? What would it
take to reset the start signals to normal waysides, since now they
are in essence draw ups.

They might well put up platform protection for staff working on the
station - but I would imagine that the normal 5mph limit through the station
will apply. Allowing trains to pass through faster would cause chaos with
the timetables, not som much on the central section where all trains are
doing the same but on the branches where other services interface.

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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They might well put up platform protection for staff working on the
station - but I would imagine that the normal 5mph limit through the
station will apply. Allowing trains to pass through faster would cause
chaos with the timetables, not som much on the central section where all
trains are doing the same but on the branches where other services
interface.

I did not think that there was much interface with service on other
branches, really. Can you give some examples, out of curiosity?

On Mar 14, 1:42*pm, wrote:
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wrote:

They might well put up platform protection for staff working on the
station - but I would imagine that the normal 5mph limit through the
station will apply. Allowing trains to pass through faster would cause
chaos with the timetables, not som much on the central section where all
trains are doing the same but on the branches where other services
interface.

I did not think that there was much interface with service on other
branches, really. Can you give some examples, out of curiosity?

Hammersmith and City from Aldgate East, Piccadilly Line at Acton Town
- Ealing Common (and from Hammersmith occasionally), North London Line
Gunnersbury - Richmond, ECS South West Trains Wimbledon - Putney. I
think that the killer spot would be Aldgate East, arriving early there
would cause the most problems.

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:Hammersmith and City from Aldgate East, Piccadilly Line at Acton Town
- Ealing Common (and from Hammersmith occasionally), North London Line
Gunnersbury - Richmond, ECS South West Trains Wimbledon - Putney. I
think that the killer spot would be Aldgate East, arriving early there
would cause the most problems.

So, it would be just too much work and upset for a situation that is going
to be temporary, regardless of the extended length of time it will be out of
service?

On Mar 14, 2:07*pm, wrote:
On Mar 14, 1:42*pm, wrote:

"Jack Taylor" wrote in message

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wrote:

They might well put up platform protection for staff working on the
station - but I would imagine that the normal 5mph limit through the
station will apply. Allowing trains to pass through faster would cause
chaos with the timetables, not som much on the central section where all
trains are doing the same but on the branches where other services
interface.

I did not think that there was much interface with service on other
branches, really. Can you give some examples, out of curiosity?

Hammersmith and City from Aldgate East, Piccadilly Line at Acton Town
- Ealing Common (and from Hammersmith occasionally), North London Line
Gunnersbury - Richmond, ECS South West Trains Wimbledon - Putney. I
think that the killer spot would be Aldgate East, arriving early there
would cause the most problems.

I find it hard to believe that the timing of the service is all that
precise in practice. My impression is that they always wait around
anyway, at Aldgate East, Earls Court and just about anywhere.

More likely, it would add a tiny bit of recovery potential to the line
if they could run through at greater speed.

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Also when from where is the last Thameslink train on the Moorgate Branch
due
to depart on 22 March?

Last would seem to be 1844 LUT - MOG due 1941 on 20 March, works out ECS.
Last passenger service out would seem to be 1906 MOG - BDM. No Saturday or
Sunday service.

Peter