Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands
 

....or 'St Albans' on destination screens, or 319s in their myriad
liveries (some with 'This is a Thameslink route service operated by
First Capital Connect' stickers in the windows).

But here they are, and it's finally started. I never thought I'd see it!


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Current nearest station: Shortlands

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs atShortlands
 

On Mar 23, 7:32*am, Rupert Candy
wrote:
...or 'St Albans' on destination screens, or 319s in their myriad
liveries (some with 'This is a Thameslink route service operated by
First Capital Connect' stickers in the windows).

But here they are, and it's finally started. I never thought I'd see it!

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Current nearest station: Shortlands

But int there been 375/6s there for many years?

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs atShortlands
 

On 23 Mar, 07:32, Rupert Candy
wrote:

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands

Didn't you notice the pantos on the class 373 TMSTs which passed
through Shortlands every day for around 13 years, the class 92 locos
which still do, or the 319s which used to work to Orpington &
Sevenoaks in the early days of Thameslink?

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands
 

MIG wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:32 am, Rupert Candy
wrote:
...or 'St Albans' on destination screens, or 319s in their myriad
liveries (some with 'This is a Thameslink route service operated by
First Capital Connect' stickers in the windows).

But here they are, and it's finally started. I never thought I'd see
it!

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Current nearest station: Shortlands

But int there been 375/6s there for many years?

Touché (though not ever stopping IME!)
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Current nearest station: Shortlands

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands
 

contrex wrote:
On 23 Mar, 07:32, Rupert Candy
wrote:

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands

Didn't you notice the pantos on the class 373 TMSTs which passed
through Shortlands every day for around 13 years, the class 92 locos
which still do, or the 319s which used to work to Orpington &
Sevenoaks in the early days of Thameslink?

Okay, okay, I just thought it was an eye catching header for what is
quite a significant change. But I hadn't reckoned on the pedants :-P
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Current nearest station: Pimlico

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs atShortlands
 

On 23 Mar, 07:32, Rupert Candy
wrote:
...or 'St Albans' on destination screens, or 319s in their myriad
liveries (some with 'This is a Thameslink route service operated by
First Capital Connect' stickers in the windows).

But here they are, and it's finally started. I never thought I'd see it!


I see the LDB service can't quite handle the jointly operated FCC/
Southeastern Kentish Town to Sevenaoaks service - northbound they are
labelled as Southeastern, southbound as FCC. Not sure that it actually
matters that much, though as with any inaccurate information it's a
potential source of passenger confusion.

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands
 

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:32:44 -0500, Rupert Candy
wrote:

But here they are, and it's finally started. I never thought I'd see it!

And the Metty Line wasn't unduly full between Farringdon and Moorgate
this morning, contrary to what I expected.

Are they all walking either from there or City Thameslink, or didn't
many people use the Moorgate branch anyway? (Can't say I ever paid
that much attention)

Neil

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Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands
 

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:

I see the LDB service can't quite handle the jointly operated FCC/
Southeastern Kentish Town to Sevenaoaks service - northbound they are
labelled as Southeastern, southbound as FCC. Not sure that it actually
matters that much, though as with any inaccurate information it's a
potential source of passenger confusion.

Like the "London Midland Southern" service that's going on at the
moment? Fortunately I am yet to see one with the PIS unset, unlike
the northbound ones from Euston which seem to prefer to show "Desiro"
than anything else. And I suppose it being a 4-car set is a giveaway
in the peak, but then again it could be a short-formation...

Neil

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Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs atShortlands
 

On Mar 23, 11:06*pm, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T

wrote:
I see the LDB service can't quite handle the jointly operated FCC/
Southeastern Kentish Town to Sevenaoaks service - northbound they are
labelled as Southeastern, southbound as FCC. Not sure that it actually
matters that much, though as with any inaccurate information it's a
potential source of passenger confusion.

Like the "London Midland Southern" service that's going on at the
moment? *Fortunately I am yet to see one with the PIS unset, unlike
the northbound ones from Euston which seem to prefer to show "Desiro"
than anything else. *And I suppose it being a 4-car set is a giveaway
in the peak, but then again it could be a short-formation...

Neil


Of course, the difference is the the MK - East Croydon service is
still a Southern service throughout, even when run with LM stock. The
'Thameslink' services mentioned are run by two TOCs with the
changeover in responsibility (if not crew) at Blackfriars. Not
surprisingly the LDB boards have a bit of a problem with this at the
moment (like they have a problem with the through Newcastle - Glasgow
via Dumfries services, which is a joint Northern / Scotrail train, but
shown as Scotrail throughout).

I don't think that there is a problem with the PIS system on the
through Thameslink services (assuming that the 319s have all the
destinations still on their blinds and that the 377s have been
correctly programmed)

Still can't get used to seeing trains with pantographs at Shortlands
 

Mizter T wrote:
On 23 Mar, 07:32, Rupert Candy
wrote:
...or 'St Albans' on destination screens, or 319s in their myriad
liveries (some with 'This is a Thameslink route service operated by
First Capital Connect' stickers in the windows).

But here they are, and it's finally started. I never thought I'd see
it!


I see the LDB service can't quite handle the jointly operated FCC/
Southeastern Kentish Town to Sevenaoaks service - northbound they are
labelled as Southeastern, southbound as FCC. Not sure that it actually
matters that much, though as with any inaccurate information it's a
potential source of passenger confusion.

It is a known inconsistency with LDBs - there are situations elsewhere, such
as Newcastle, where jointly run services are shown arriving as Scotrail and
returning as Northern. I believe it is just that LDB uses only the first TOC
shown where two are in the system.

However, IIRC the platform indicators at St Pancras were showing
Southeastern on appropriate southbound trains - perhaps they are locally
altered?

Paul S