I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham
Green the other, er, night.

I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it
come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel
elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.)
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

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Ian Jelf wrote:
I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham
Green the other, er, night.

I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it
come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel
elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.)

Late Met trains stopped at Willesden Green and Neasden not too long ago....
I think that has stopped now.

In message , Ian Jelf
writes

I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham
Green the other, er, night.

I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it
come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel
elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.)

I think the practice started in the early 60s, when District services
west of London were being cut back. Offering an interchange at Turnham
Green provided greater flexibility, but the additional stop was too
disruptive to the fast-running section of the Piccadilly line to be
offered during the main part of the Monday-Friday timetable.

There was a time in the 70s when the hours of the Turnham Green stoppers
were extended, but they were cut back again due to little usage. In
recent years, there has been much local demand (and a petition) to get
the Piccadilly to stop there throughout the day, but LU has maintained
the position that it would reduce the capacity of the line, at least
until signalling is improved.
--
Paul Terry

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In message , Ian Jelf
writes

I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green
the other, er, night.

I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it
come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel
elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.)

I think the practice started in the early 60s, when District services west
of London were being cut back. Offering an interchange at Turnham Green
provided greater flexibility, but the additional stop was too disruptive
to the fast-running section of the Piccadilly line to be offered during
the main part of the Monday-Friday timetable.

As you say it allows connection into the District trains to/from Richmond
when the Ealin services are less frequent.

But IME, the evening service starts much later than it needs to without
disrupting the service. It could easily start an hour earlier and none of
the Picc pax would be disrupted.

tim

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:55:17 +0100, tim..... wrote:

As you say it allows connection into the District trains to/from Richmond
when the Ealin services are less frequent.

But IME, the evening service starts much later than it needs to without
disrupting the service. It could easily start an hour earlier and none of
the Picc pax would be disrupted.

Err, what? How can trains in that hour stop at Turnham Green without
increasing the journey time for Picc passengers not getting on/off
there?

"Ian Jelf" wrote
I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green
the other, er, night.

I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it
come to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel
elsewhere on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.)

I've always liked to imagine that they have adjustable colour-coded signs
there. When the sparse service of Piccadilly Line trains is due, they change
them to blue. When the last Piccadilly train has gone, they turn'em green.

Sorry.
I'll go now.

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, John Salmon wrote:

"Ian Jelf" wrote
I was on a late night Piccadilly Line train which stopped at Turnham Green
the other, er, night.

I've often wondered, what's the story behind that oddity? How did it come
to be a feature of the timetable? (I can think of no parallel elsewhere
on the system, at least not in even remotely recent years.)

I've always liked to imagine that they have adjustable colour-coded
signs there. When the sparse service of Piccadilly Line trains is due,
they change them to blue. When the last Piccadilly train has gone, they
turn'em green.

Oh, i thought the whole point of having the Picc occasionally stop there
was so that in the peaks, it can whizz right past the waiting commuters,
inducing feelings of great envy, and thus turn 'em green.

tom

--
Teach us how to die well

Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of Barons Court on the Picc and
replace it with Turnham Green?

sweek wrote on 20 April 2009 11:23:23 ...
Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of Barons Court on the Picc and
replace it with Turnham Green?

No. Baron's Court has more passengers entering and exiting the station
per year (6.7M) than Turnham Green (5.9M). (2007 figures on the TfL
site, the most recent available)
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

In message , at 09:31:57
on Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Richard J. remarked:
Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of Barons Court on the Picc and
replace it with Turnham Green?

No. Baron's Court has more passengers entering and exiting the station
per year (6.7M) than Turnham Green (5.9M).

There's a big college just across the road, isn't there? And it's not
exactly the sort of area any sane person would drive to on account of
all the major roads.
--
Roland Perry