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Mizter T April 21st 09 12:01 PM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 

On Apr 21, 11:53*am, "Ian F." wrote:

wrote:
Who gives a stuff what happens on an island 5000 miles away? If the
protesters are all so concerned about the place why don't they fly
over there and help sort it out instead of causing a nuisance here
and demand our govenrment "do something"? Do what exactly? Send the
gunboats to Columbo? Fscking idiots.


*applause*

Ian


*frown*

Mizter T April 21st 09 12:02 PM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 

On Apr 21, 11:49*am, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:11:09 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:

On 21 Apr, 09:04, Offramp wrote:


Whitehall was completely blocked off because of those protesters
again, something to do with Tamils. I think they are either for or
against them.


Why don't you find out what it's about?


It might turn out to be something more important than your journey.


Who gives a stuff what happens on an island 5000 miles away? If the
protesters are all so concerned about the place why don't they fly
over there and help sort it out instead of causing a nuisance here
and demand our govenrment "do something"? Do what exactly? Send the
gunboats to Columbo? Fscking idiots.


I give a stuff.

[email protected] April 21st 09 01:26 PM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:02:16 -0700 (PDT)
Mizter T wrote:
Who gives a stuff what happens on an island 5000 miles away? If the
protesters are all so concerned about the place why don't they fly
over there and help sort it out instead of causing a nuisance here
and demand our govenrment "do something"? Do what exactly? Send the
gunboats to Columbo? Fscking idiots.


I give a stuff.


So paint yourself a trendy banner, book a flight over there and campaign
in front of the sri lankan government building. Be prepared to be badly
beaten up by the majority sinhalese however who've had to put up with
over 30 years of terrorist atrocities from the tamil tigers that all these
fsck witted bleeding heart tamils on the front lawn of westminster are sobbing
over.

B2003


Mr Thant April 21st 09 01:48 PM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 
On 21 Apr, 11:49, wrote:
gunboats to Columbo?


I fail to see how putting gunboats in the hands of someone with no
sense of depth perception would help the situation.

U

Ian F. April 21st 09 02:05 PM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 
"Offramp" wrote in message
...

After 10pm weekdays; Tooting Broadway is the same.


Ah OK, thanks. I'm too old to be out that late. ;-)

Ian


Chris Read April 21st 09 09:02 PM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 

"Mizter T" wrote:


.On Apr 21, 9:04 am, Offramp wrote:
Yesterday I was trying to get home from Euston to Tooting Broadway.
Not normally the most epic of journeys. But there were major problems
on the Northern Line, so I got off at London Bridge. I took an
overground train to Charing Cross and got on a 24 to go to Victoria.


Whitehall was completely blocked off because of those protesters
again, something to do with Tamils. I think they are either for or
against them. Buses were being diverted god-knows-where. So I got off,
walked to Westminster, took a tube to Victoria, took the overground to
Balham then realised that both Balham and Tooting Broadway were shut
owing to engineering works, so I had to get a 355 bus home.


Anyway, when the French trawlermen blockaded the port recently P&O
said it was thinking of suing them. Is there some organization behind
these Parliament Square demos that might be sued by disgruntled
punters?


They weren't entirely to blame, but they didn't help.


Interesting that you don't talk of wanting to sue LU, just the
demonstrators.


I'm yet to respond to the other thread on the topic of demonstrations
which I thought was thoroughly reactionary.


If you're referring to the thread I started, a couple of weeks back, I'm
interested to know why you think this was 'thoroughly reactionary'. I made
it quite clear I was in favour of the right to free speech and lawful
demonstration, but that if this involved bringing central London to a
standstill most weekends, there were legitimate questions to be asked about
how the cost to London is borne. I gave my view as to who should bear that
cost, because someone has to pay.

Chris










Doug April 22nd 09 06:05 AM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 
On 21 Apr, 09:04, Offramp wrote:
Yesterday I was trying to get home from Euston to Tooting Broadway.
Not normally the most epic of journeys. But there were major problems
on the Northern Line, so I got off at London Bridge. I took an
overground train to Charing Cross and got on a 24 to go to Victoria.

Poor choice of your route.

Whitehall was completely blocked off because of those protesters
again, something to do with Tamils. I think they are either for or
against them. Buses were being diverted god-knows-where. So I got off,
walked to Westminster, took a tube to Victoria, took the overground to
Balham then realised that both Balham and Tooting Broadway were shut
owing to engineering works, so I had to get a 355 bus home.

Anyway, when the French trawlermen blockaded the port recently P&O
said it was thinking of suing them. Is there some organization behind
these Parliament Square demos that might be sued by disgruntled
punters?

They weren't entirely to blame, but they didn't help.

Two points.

Firstly, public roads are not for the exclusive use of through traffic
but serve a variety of purposes.

Secondly, road closures are mostly performed by the police in response
to demonstrations, so sue them. Oh wait though! If you sue them and
win it will be the taxpayer who pays up, not the police.

It seems that your problem was mainly due to the Underground so why
try to blame the protesters?

--
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www.zing.icom43.net
One man's democracy is another man's regime.

Offramp April 22nd 09 07:15 AM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 
On Apr 22, 7:05*am, Doug wrote:

Firstly, public roads are not for the exclusive use of through traffic
but serve a variety of purposes.


What like?

Secondly, road closures are mostly performed by the police in response
to demonstrations, so sue them.


Why are they protesting in Whitehall? Why not protest outside the Sri
Lankan Embassy or, better still, go to Sri Lanka and protest outside
their own government house?

In any case, I can't see any police at all in this picture
http://www.sibernews.com/images/2009...don2004092.jpg

David Cantrell April 22nd 09 10:02 AM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:30:26AM +0100, Ian F. wrote:

What time was this on Monday? I live in Balham and didn't know the station
was closed.


Closed from 10pm onwards for the next few weeks. It's very irritating.
And was extremely poorly communicated by London Underground. The first
I heard about it was when I went through the station on the first day of
the closure. Given that I use Balham station regularly, I keep an eye
out for such things, but neither saw nor heard anything whatsoever
before then.

--
David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age

EIN KIRCHE! EIN KREDO! EIN PAPST!

David Cantrell April 22nd 09 10:19 AM

Those protesters again - London stopped - who can we sue?
 
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:02:18PM +0100, Chris Read wrote:

If you're referring to the thread I started, a couple of weeks back, I'm
interested to know why you think this was 'thoroughly reactionary'. I made
it quite clear I was in favour of the right to free speech and lawful
demonstration, but that if this involved bringing central London to a
standstill most weekends, there were legitimate questions to be asked about
how the cost to London is borne. I gave my view as to who should bear that
cost, because someone has to pay.


If I'm not getting two threads confused, didn't someone say that the
demonstrators should pay? That, of course, makes certain parts of
political life the exclusive preserve of the well-off, which is a Really
Bad Idea. And I say that as someone who is in the top 10% of earners in
the country.

I'm quite happy to pay the costs of other people demonstrating, through
funding the police*, through my journeys occasionally taking longer, and
through infinitesimal extra costs passed on to me by businesses that are
affected. Even when I strongly disagree with the demonstrators I'm
willing to pay that cost. That's because democracy and holding the
state to account is important.

I'm even happy to pay the extra costs involved because of the tiny
minority who don't just protest peacefully - those costs being extra
policing, vandalism, court time, prisons, hospital treatment, etc.
Not that whether I'm happy matters or not - those who are willing to
break laws about things like vandalism and assault are presumably also
willing to break laws about paying cash in advance for their silliness!

* in the abstract - I certainly don't approve of their criminality,
incompetence and thuggery in recent years.

--
David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -- H. L. Mencken


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