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Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??


Thanks

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following in:

Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on
Monday. How long should I allow for the journey ??

http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/

It seems to think about 1:13, although that's probably an optimistic
time and if you don't set it to "least interchange", it'll send you
round to Paddington and put you on the Heathrow Express instead of just
getting on the Piccadilly line all the way.

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Edward Cowling London UK wrote the
following in:

Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on
Monday. How long should I allow for the journey ??

http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/

It seems to think about 1:13, although that's probably an optimistic
time and if you don't set it to "least interchange", it'll send you
round to Paddington and put you on the Heathrow Express instead of just
getting on the Piccadilly line all the way.

It may be quicker, but who fancies all the messing about changing
trains.

Thanks, I'll give it 1.5 hours to be safe.

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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...
Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??


A good rule of thumb on the underground is to allow 2 minutes per station
stop.

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From: Edward Cowling London UK
Date: 04/10/2003 15:54 GMT Daylight Time

Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??


Thanks

About three weeks to allow for cancellations, failed trains and ****poor
management. Take some sandwiches and a thermos of soup with you.

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On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:54:55 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
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Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??

Great, now I know which joker with all the luggage to scowl at!
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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...
Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??


A good rule of thumb on the underground is to allow 2 minutes per station
stop.


I would allow a little more than that, like 2½ mins. 2 stops per 5 mins
is easy eough to calculate.

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
"Cast_Iron" typed



"Edward Cowling London UK"
wrote in message
...
Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid
morning on Monday. How long should I allow for the
journey ??


A good rule of thumb on the underground is to allow 2
minutes per station stop.


I would allow a little more than that, like 2½ mins. 2
stops per 5 mins
is easy eough to calculate.

Whilst better to allow more than less the 2 minutes is based on many years
experience.

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"Cast_Iron" typed



I would allow a little more than that, like 2½ mins. 2
stops per 5 mins
is easy eough to calculate.

Whilst better to allow more than less the 2 minutes is based on many years
experience.

I suppose it depends on which parts of which lines you frequent. I live
on the outer fringes of the Northern Line, where 2½ mins is the correct
allowance. My other regular journey is Preston Road to Uxbridge on the
Met (10 stops) for which the 'average' journey time is given as 26 min.

Inner London stations are far closer so need less time.

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In message , Nick Cooper
writes
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:54:55 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??

Great, now I know which joker with all the luggage to scowl at!

It does seem typically British to run a service to the airport, but have
no real provision for luggage space.

Mind you I promise not to have all my belongings in a back pack !

Forget Pedo's and terrorists it's the back packers we should really be
going after :-)

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"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
...
"Cast_Iron" typed



I would allow a little more than that, like 2½ mins. 2
stops per 5 mins
is easy eough to calculate.

Whilst better to allow more than less the 2 minutes is based on many
years
experience.

I suppose it depends on which parts of which lines you frequent. I live
on the outer fringes of the Northern Line, where 2½ mins is the correct
allowance. My other regular journey is Preston Road to Uxbridge on the
Met (10 stops) for which the 'average' journey time is given as 26 min.

Inner London stations are far closer so need less time.

My method works for the system as a whole, obviously there are local
variations.

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Forget Pedo's and terrorists it's the back packers we should really be
going after :-)

good to see the EC pronouncements have not softened with age, arhhh those
were the days... IBBS, OLEF.... 2.4k modems..


"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:54:55 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??

Great, now I know which joker with all the luggage to scowl at!

It does seem typically British to run a service to the airport, but have
no real provision for luggage space.

Mind you I promise not to have all my belongings in a back pack !


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Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:54:55 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid
morning on Monday. How long should I allow for the
journey ??

Great, now I know which joker with all the luggage to
scowl at!

It does seem typically British to run a service to the
airport, but have no real provision for luggage space.

As with so many extensions to an existing service the Piccadilly Line trains
are a compromise. Its primary functions is to carry people between central
London, the suburbs and intermediately. The airport traffic is an add on,
providing adequate space for large quantities of luggage would be to the
detriment of those who make most use of the service.

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In message , tfp ntl
writes
Forget Pedo's and terrorists it's the back packers we should really be
going after :-)

good to see the EC pronouncements have not softened with age, arhhh those
were the days... IBBS, OLEF.... 2.4k modems..


I always reckoned OLEF stood for Off Line Every Five Minutes :-)

Good days those, until someone tried to upload with a V23 modem at 75
baud !!

All the best

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In message , Cast_Iron
writes
It does seem typically British to run a service to the
airport, but have no real provision for luggage space.

As with so many extensions to an existing service the Piccadilly Line trains
are a compromise. Its primary functions is to carry people between central
London, the suburbs and intermediately. The airport traffic is an add on,
providing adequate space for large quantities of luggage would be to the
detriment of those who make most use of the service.


I think there is a place for trains with mainly standing areas, which
would be better for those carrying luggage, but that's a whole different
thread.

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In article ,
(Cast_Iron) wrote:

"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
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"Cast_Iron" typed

I would allow a little more than that, like 2½ mins. 2
stops per 5 mins is easy eough to calculate.

Whilst better to allow more than less the 2 minutes is based on many
years experience.

I suppose it depends on which parts of which lines you frequent. I
live on the outer fringes of the Northern Line, where 2½ mins is the
correct allowance. My other regular journey is Preston Road to
Uxbridge on the Met (10 stops) for which the 'average' journey time is
given as 26 min.

Inner London stations are far closer so need less time.

My method works for the system as a whole, obviously there are local
variations.

I also use 2 minutes per stop as a working approximation but it isn't
right for outer sections of some lines. E.g. If I take the Victoria Line
from central London to Tottenham Hale I allow 3 minutes per station North
of King's Cross.

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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...
Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??


A good rule of thumb on the underground is to allow 2 minutes per station
stop.

Plus allow an extra 5 minutes per Tube line used, plus 10 minutes for
getting in/out of the stations and miscellaneous delays.

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"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...
In message , Cast_Iron
writes
It does seem typically British to run a service to the
airport, but have no real provision for luggage space.

As with so many extensions to an existing service the Piccadilly Line
trains
are a compromise. Its primary functions is to carry people between
central
London, the suburbs and intermediately. The airport traffic is an add on,
providing adequate space for large quantities of luggage would be to the
detriment of those who make most use of the service.


I think there is a place for trains with mainly standing areas, which
would be better for those carrying luggage, but that's a whole different
thread.

They need to remove the arm-rests from the seats so American tourists can
sit down.

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On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:00:42 +0100, "Ed Crowley"
wrote:

They need to remove the arm-rests from the seats so American tourists can
sit down.

Like they've done on the Bakerloo and Central Lines ya mean? (I'm
ignoring the Met/East London and Circle/Hammersmith & City/Wimbleware
for now, as those didn't have armrests when built IIRC).

Cya,

Barry, wandering off to look at the Fido nodelist and see just how small
it is

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From: "Cast_Iron"
Date: 05/10/2003 09:27 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

My method works for the system as a whole, obviously there are local
variations.

What a modest assertion! May we be permitted sight of the evidence for it?

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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:15:54 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:

Good days those, until someone tried to upload with a V23 modem at 75
baud !!

Ooh...Fun... ;)

The latest Fido nodelist makes for rather depressing reading, however...

Net 254 is down to just 6 nodes, comprising 3 unique systems

Region 25 as a whole is down to 35 nodes, and 28 unique systems

Might try and put up the board again at some point, although it'll be a
new system, not Wildcat as I'm running Win2k now ;)

Cya,

Barry

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On 06 Oct 2003 19:10:45 GMT, are (Acrosticus)
wrote:



My method works for the system as a whole, obviously there are local
variations.

What a modest assertion! May we be permitted sight of the evidence for it?


Err, the 2 minutes per station and 5 minutes per change estimate has
been used for *many* years - I've known about it since I came to
London a long time ago.

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K wrote:
On 06 Oct 2003 19:10:45 GMT, are
(Acrosticus)
wrote:



My method works for the system as a whole, obviously
there are local variations.

What a modest assertion! May we be permitted sight of the
evidence for it?


Err, the 2 minutes per station and 5 minutes per change
estimate has
been used for *many* years - I've known about it since I
came to
London a long time ago.

Careful "Acrosticus" has a record of being deliberately argumentative and
then disappearing for weeks on end.

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"Cast_Iron" wrote the following in:


K wrote:
On 06 Oct 2003 19:10:45 GMT, are
(Acrosticus)
wrote:



My method works for the system as a whole, obviously
there are local variations.

What a modest assertion! May we be permitted sight of the
evidence for it?


Err, the 2 minutes per station and 5 minutes per change
estimate has
been used for *many* years - I've known about it since I
came to
London a long time ago.

Careful "Acrosticus" has a record of being deliberately
argumentative and then disappearing for weeks on end.

And his reply to the original poster was oh so helpful.

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In article ,
Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??


In the current Piccadilly Line timetable most trains do it in about 75
mins, although one or two manage 71 mins and others take 79 mins.
It is about 15-22 mins faster using HEX from Paddington but involves 2
changes.

David

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From: "Cast_Iron"
Date: 07/10/2003 13:37 GMT Daylight Time

Careful "Acrosticus" has a record of being deliberately argumentative and
then disappearing for weeks on end.

But only because I comment upon topics I know something about.Unfortunately
however, you (possibly with a view to a magistracy or membership of a local
authority perhaps?) appear to seek an omnipresence here and believe that gives
you credibility.

Both magistrate's benches and local council chambers have frequent vacancies
for people bone-headed enough to shamelessly venture opinions on topics they
know "F" all about in the way that you do (try the bench first though, you
don't need to go through the trauma of an election for that one), so why not
apply there instead of troubling us with your arrogance? Then you could bang
people up for six months on the strengrh of your misguided opinions, should
you get one of these "Commissions of the Peace" things that tell everyone
you're a crook on the make (except the Magistrates Association has banned the
use of "JP" as a post-nominal designation, sadly)!

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In message , Edward Cowling
London UK writes
Bounds Green to Heathrow on the Piccadilly Line, mid morning on Monday.
How long should I allow for the journey ??

WTT says 1:16 AGR - HRC. There isn't a timing point at Bounds Green but
3 mins sounds about right.
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