On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:09:11 -0000, "iantheengineer"
wrote:



Lets face it Derek, you will never get your arse out of your car until the
carbon monoxide from the polluted atmosphere leaks into it and we all die a
horrible death.

There's no CO from modern cars. People have tried to commit suicide by
piping the exhaust back into the passenger compartment and
persistently failed to die, that's why Dr What'sisface used those
drugs. They've become the fav. method since car exhaust no longer
works.


What business are you in needing all these tools?


I repair and install X-ray and Nuclear Counting/Imaging equipment in
Hospitals and Research labs.

Do you only travel for business?

My employment supports my family, and involves travelling. This week
Leeds,Exeter, Torquay, Dudley Leeds. Last week, Leeds, Edinburgh
Aberdeen, Leeds.

o you never travel for other reasons???

Yes, I go on holiday. 4 out of the last 5 years I've taken the car to
the continent. I've driven to Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, Venice,
Florence, Rome, Naples, Amalfi, Vienna, Budapest, and all points in
between.

This last year the introduction of the Euro has caused a lot of
inflation on the continent making 2 rooms x 25 nights too expensive so
I went on a cruise and did Copenhagen, Vilnius, St. Petersburg,
Helsinki, Gothland, Warnemunde, (Old East) Germany, Stokholm, and
Aarhus in one trip.

No
amount of fact figures, studies will ever change your mind as you, and many
others in this NG only believe what they want to believe so that they can
sleep soundly at night.


??

In answer to your question about who does the maintenance on your product
well what can I say. You sold the product to them to inflate your pockets.

??

If you couldnt have provided it someone else would have in the locality or
they would have managed with what they had got perviously.


I can tell you, you wouldn't have wanted a child of yours to endure
the invasive proceadures that were routine before digital X-ray became
available. Eg, get a child, strap it to a tilting table, drill a small
hole in it's skull, inserta ;little plastic pipe, inject air as
contrast media, turn child upside down on tilting table and fire X-ray
shots at 2 per second as the bubbles make their way up the spinal
column.

As for the roadworks it obviously depends upon the length of works and the
type of works. When you next go past try opening your eyes and assessing
what work is being carried out. Obviously if you are patching its a quick
job, if you are relaying then it is a much bigger task, if you are fittimg
safety fencing / lighting or drainage then it takes even longer. Surely in
whatever it is that you do, some jobs take longer than others.


Just as I thought 2 hours is bull****.

For your sort of work it isnt realistic to expect you to use public
transport, but there are many other jobs that use cars, where PT could be
used. Most office workers commute to a city with a briefcase. If they werent
on the road then you would have less congestion.



I think you would be better employed mounting a tirade about:

1) Long distance commuting. Too many people are commuting 100 - 150
miles. On the railway it's by and large too expensive, on the buses
it's laughable! On the roads this means they are still travelling at
8-9 PM. But they don't do it for fun, society has pressed them into
that mould.

2) Short distance commuting at rush hour, just disincentivise it, make
these people pay the real cost of having vehicles and infrastructure
stood around all day (Like motorists do) just to be used for the rush
hour commute.

But outside these distortions the transport systems should be able to
meet the demand.

DG

"derek" wrote in message
...

There's no CO from modern cars. People have tried to commit suicide by
piping the exhaust back into the passenger compartment and
persistently failed to die, that's why Dr What'sisface used those
drugs. They've become the fav. method since car exhaust no longer
works.

OK, it's pedantic, but modern cars do emit CO. A lot less than older cars,
but they still produce it nonetheless.

See

http://www.naei.org.uk/other/vehicle_emissions_v8.xls

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:32:41 -0000, "Stephen Cragg"
wrote:


"derek" wrote in message
.. .

There's no CO from modern cars. People have tried to commit suicide by
piping the exhaust back into the passenger compartment and
persistently failed to die, that's why Dr What'sisface used those
drugs. They've become the fav. method since car exhaust no longer
works.

OK, it's pedantic,

Indeed it is, and not pertinent to this discussion. It would appear
that emissions have been reduced by a factor of about 40 fold.

We all know nothing is perfect.

but modern cars do emit CO. A lot less than older cars,
but they still produce it nonetheless.

See

http://www.naei.org.uk/other/vehicle_emissions_v8.xls




DG