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from Bruce contains these words: Cotherstone (or is it Cotherston, I can never remember) made in Durham, is an interesting cheese, although it's not always easy to get. Is that another blue? Can't say I have ever come across it. White, reasonably firm, not crumbly. Made with unpasteurised milk on a farm in, surprise, Cotherstone (with an "e"). If your local cheese-monger has heard of it, keep supporting him/her, because they know about cheese - but if they offer to get it for you, ask them if they know how far it is to Barnard Castle... Alternatively, divert from your usual route back from Lancashire and call at the Cheese Shop in Northgate Street in Chester - they often have it in stock(and they drive over to Cotherstone to get it). -- Dave, Frodsham http://dave-jackson.fotopic.net |
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In message , at
18:47:53 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Arthur Figgis remarked: Legally, Stilton *can't* be made in Stilton. Which isn't entirely illogical as Stilton was where it was sold, rather than made. -- Roland Perry |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:11:21 +0100, David Jackson wrote: The message . li from Tom Anderson contains these words: One so advanced they've lost the need to make decent cheese, apparently. No, as it happens. You just need to buy the Real Thing(TM), not something invented in ASDATescoburys. I have some rather tasty Cheshire Blue on my plate right now... Is Cheshire Blue really "the Real Thing?"? Without any AOC regulations such as those that apply to. for example, Champagne wines and Melton Mowbray pork pies, no Cheshire cheese can be truly said to be "the Real Thing?". No, that means that no Cheshire cheese can be *officially* the Real Thing, but that has nothing to do with whether it can be *truly* the Real Thing. The distinction between laws and truth is one that seems to have been consistently overlooked in this whole thread! But surely blue was not one of the traditional cheeses associated with the Cheshire "brand"? It's certainly not what people associate with 'Cheshire cheese' today. Not that i'm saying it's not good - Cheshire strikes me as a cheese which would make a very good blue. As for Cheddar, any cheese that can be made in locations as far away from Cheddar Gorge as Canada and Israel cannot expect to be taken seriously. ;-) tediousOf course, 'cheddar' nowadays refers to the use of the cheddaring process in manufacturing. It's perfectly correct to describe Canadian or Zambian cheddar as cheddar if it's made the right way (although plenty of people refer to cheese made the wrong way as cheddar, notably Americans). This may or may not be a good thing for consumers and/or the people of West Somerset, but that's the way it is. See also brie, which is no longer restricted to the Brie region of the Ile de France, champagne, a name which is applied to non-Champenoise wines by some people (notably Americans again), and London Dry Gin. tom -- Oh, and sometimes in order to survive you have to drink the irradiated water from an old toilet. -- Jon, on Fallout |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:37:26 +0100, David Jackson
wrote: The message from Bruce contains these words: Is that another blue? Can't say I have ever come across it. White, reasonably firm, not crumbly. Made with unpasteurised milk on a farm in, surprise, Cotherstone (with an "e"). If your local cheese-monger has heard of it, keep supporting him/her, because they know about cheese - but if they offer to get it for you, ask them if they know how far it is to Barnard Castle... Alternatively, divert from your usual route back from Lancashire and call at the Cheese Shop in Northgate Street in Chester - they often have it in stock(and they drive over to Cotherstone to get it). Thanks! I buy cheeses from cheesemongers in Oxford, Stilton, Biggleswade (Bedfordshire) and on occasional trips to Lancaster, plus some mail order. I doubt that the southerners would be willing to drive all that way, but the one in Lancaster might, or possibly he already does. I will call him tomorrow and see if he can get some for me. Failing that I could make a detour on my trip back from Scotland. I supply cheese (and coffee) to a couple of restaurateurs I know who are always willing to try something new. |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:47:53 +0100, Arthur Figgis
wrote: Bruce wrote: As for Cheddar, any cheese that can be made in locations as far away from Cheddar Gorge as Canada and Israel cannot expect to be taken seriously. ;-) Legally, Stilton *can't* be made in Stilton. No, but it can be sold there, and is. ;-) |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:47:53 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Arthur Figgis remarked: Legally, Stilton *can't* be made in Stilton. Which isn't entirely illogical as Stilton was where it was sold, rather than made. Mars bars next? -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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"Mizter T" wrote
What I've read beforehand is that neither Herfordshire CC nor any of the Buckinghamshire local authorities (Bucks CC having been abolished in favour of unitary authorities) subsidise ... http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/sites/bcc/...r_Council.page says Buckinghamshire CC exists and is based in Aylesbury (perhaps somewhere near uk.r HQ). Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. [1] That's the real it's. See http://angryflower.com/itsits.gif |
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On Jul 23, 8:08*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
tediousOf course, 'cheddar' nowadays refers to the use of the cheddaring process in manufacturing. It's perfectly correct to describe Canadian or Zambian cheddar as cheddar if it's made the right way (although plenty of people refer to cheese made the wrong way as cheddar, notably Americans). This may or may not be a good thing for consumers and/or the people of West Somerset, but that's the way it is. See also brie, which is no longer restricted to the Brie region of the Ile de France, champagne, a name which is applied to non-Champenoise wines by some people (notably Americans again), and London Dry Gin. It's not made in London, it's wet, and it's not made in Geneva either... -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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"John Salmon" writes:
Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? -Miles -- Quack, n. A murderer without a license. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, John B wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:08*pm, Tom Anderson wrote: tediousOf course, 'cheddar' nowadays refers to the use of the cheddaring process in manufacturing. It's perfectly correct to describe Canadian or Zambian cheddar as cheddar if it's made the right way (although plenty of people refer to cheese made the wrong way as cheddar, notably Americans). This may or may not be a good thing for consumers and/or the people of West Somerset, but that's the way it is. See also brie, which is no longer restricted to the Brie region of the Ile de France, champagne, a name which is applied to non-Champenoise wines by some people (notably Americans again), and London Dry Gin. It's not made in London, it's wet, and it's not made in Geneva either... Doesn't 'genever' mean 'juniper' in Dutch, and have 0 to do with Switzerland? tom -- Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. -- Dehnadi and Bornat |
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On Jul 24, 2:52*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
This may or may not be a good thing for consumers and/or the people of West Somerset, but that's the way it is. See also brie, which is no longer restricted to the Brie region of the Ile de France, champagne, a name which is applied to non-Champenoise wines by some people (notably Americans again), and London Dry Gin. It's not made in London, it's wet, and it's not made in Geneva either... Doesn't 'genever' mean 'juniper' in Dutch, and have 0 to do with Switzerland? Yup, you're absolutely right. Another urban myth shattered. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent landscaping and some very good modern architecture. My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name) is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision could be better. I don't live in MK but would be happy to. |
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John B wrote:
On Jul 24, 2:52 pm, Tom Anderson wrote: This may or may not be a good thing for consumers and/or the people of West Somerset, but that's the way it is. See also brie, which is no longer restricted to the Brie region of the Ile de France, champagne, a name which is applied to non-Champenoise wines by some people (notably Americans again), and London Dry Gin. It's not made in London, it's wet, and it's not made in Geneva either... Doesn't 'genever' mean 'juniper' in Dutch, and have 0 to do with Switzerland? Yup, you're absolutely right. Another urban myth shattered. Didn't Junipers come from Washwood Heath? -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
o.uk John B wrote: On Jul 24, 2:52 pm, Tom Anderson wrote: This may or may not be a good thing for consumers and/or the people of West Somerset, but that's the way it is. See also brie, which is no longer restricted to the Brie region of the Ile de France, champagne, a name which is applied to non-Champenoise wines by some people (notably Americans again), and London Dry Gin. It's not made in London, it's wet, and it's not made in Geneva either... Doesn't 'genever' mean 'juniper' in Dutch, and have 0 to do with Switzerland? Yup, you're absolutely right. Another urban myth shattered. Didn't Junipers come from Washwood Heath? They did, before they became extinct |
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On Jul 24, 3:57*am, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] *just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Emphatically not! I have a friend who lives in Milton Keynes. He tells me that when he moved there, it far exceeded his expectations. That reflects what I had heard from others who have lived there. Of particular note is that fact that the road system was designed with the correct capacity for the population density. In the UK that is hardly the norm. |
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In message , Miles Bader
writes Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? I'm not sure why it sounds "horrid" - it's based around a seriously ancient village (Middleton) that was granted to the Cahaines family after the Norman conquest (whose property included Horsted Keynes in Sussex as well as well as Milto Keynes). Since the late 1960s it became a large new town, with mainly pleasant domestic suburban architecture, but with a dismal centre and (typical of the period) a poorly thought-out emphasis on car travel that includes a totally unnecessary number of roundabouts -- Paul Terry |
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1506 writes:
Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Emphatically not! I have a friend who lives in Milton Keynes. He tells me that when he moved there, it far exceeded his expectations. That reflects what I had heard from others who have lived there. Of particular note is that fact that the road system was designed with the correct capacity for the population density. In the UK that is hardly the norm. So... kind of a mini-LA then? -Miles -- Circus, n. A place where horses, ponies and elephants are permitted to see men, women and children acting the fool. |
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On Jul 24, 12:14*pm, Miles Bader wrote:
1506 writes: Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Emphatically not! *I have a friend who lives in Milton Keynes. *He tells me that when he moved there, it far exceeded his expectations. That reflects what I had heard from others who have lived there. Of particular note is that fact that the road system was designed with the correct capacity for the population density. *In the UK that is hardly the norm. So... kind of a mini-LA then? :-) Los Angeles was actually built around a transit system, The Pacific Electric and its poorer cousin, The LA Ry. The Freeways came later. Uncontrolled expansion of the built up area has meant that the road infrastructure, at the core, can never keep up. |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:08:35 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: [---] It's perfectly correct to describe Canadian or Zambian cheddar as cheddar if it's made the right way Agreed - the Ozzies in Tasmania have proven that, many times over. (although plenty of people refer to cheese made the wrong way as cheddar, notably Americans). And not just Americans - "Brie" made in Alsace is equally misleading. This may or may not be a good thing for consumers and/or the people of West Somerset, but that's the way it is. See also brie, which is no longer restricted to the Brie region of the Ile de France My experience has been that unless the stuff comes from Meaux or Melun (both of which are Briard), then it's not worth eating. |
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Paul Terry writes:
Since the late 1960s it became a large new town, with mainly pleasant domestic suburban architecture, but with a dismal centre and (typical of the period) a poorly thought-out emphasis on car travel that includes a totally unnecessary number of roundabouts It's the latter that I've heard of. -Miles -- Cannon, n. An instrument employed in the rectification of national boundaries. |
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Anyway, obviously the concept of "correct road capacity" depends
strongly on lifestyle, and when designing a new town, one has a lot of leeway to influence that. Given that MK was built in the '60s heyday of "cars are our future!" attitudes, the phrase ends up sounding like a nice way of saying "a vast sprawling wasteland of concrete"; kind of like an american auto-suburb.... -miles -- Accordion, n. An instrument in harmony with the sentiments of an assassin. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: "John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent landscaping and some very good modern architecture. My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name) is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision could be better. My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. tom -- Rapid oxidation is the new black. -- some Mike |
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Miles Bader wrote:
1506 writes: Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Emphatically not! I have a friend who lives in Milton Keynes. He tells me that when he moved there, it far exceeded his expectations. That reflects what I had heard from others who have lived there. Of particular note is that fact that the road system was designed with the correct capacity for the population density. In the UK that is hardly the norm. So... kind of a mini-LA then? More like a cross between 'Threads' and 'The Equalizer'. tom -- Miscellaneous Terrorists: Ducks | Bird Flu | Avian flu | Jimbo Wales | Backstreet Boys | The Al Queda Network | Tesco -- Uncyclopedia |
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: "John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent landscaping and some very good modern architecture. My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name) is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision could be better. My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches? Seems unlikely. Were you sober? ;-) |
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Tom Anderson writes:
So... kind of a mini-LA then? More like a cross between 'Threads' and 'The Equalizer'. Soo..... a mini-LA. With crabapples. -miles -- 97% of everything is grunge |
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: "John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent landscaping and some very good modern architecture. My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name) is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision could be better. My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches? To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths. Seems unlikely. Were you sober? ;-) It is my policy to make no comment on this. tom -- Science Never Sleeps |
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: "John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent landscaping and some very good modern architecture. My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name) is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision could be better. My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches? To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths. So not statistically significant ... Seems unlikely. Were you sober? ;-) It is my policy to make no comment on this. smile |
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: "John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent landscaping and some very good modern architecture. My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name) is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision could be better. My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches? To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths. So not statistically significant ... I didn't take measurements while i was there, but going from memory, i would say that the mean depth of crabapples was 2.1 inches, with a standard deviation of 0.4 inches. So to P 0.05, Milton Keynes is covered in crabapples. Happy? tom -- She got destiny, she got supremacy, she got everything ever from A to Z. |
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:46:17 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: "John Salmon" writes: Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one. Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as it sounds? Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent landscaping and some very good modern architecture. My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name) is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision could be better. My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches? To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths. So not statistically significant ... I didn't take measurements while i was there, but going from memory, i would say that the mean depth of crabapples was 2.1 inches, with a standard deviation of 0.4 inches. So to P 0.05, Milton Keynes is covered in crabapples. Happy? Delirious. ;-) |
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Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:46:17 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches? To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths. So not statistically significant ... I didn't take measurements while i was there, but going from memory, i would say that the mean depth of crabapples was 2.1 inches, with a standard deviation of 0.4 inches. So to P 0.05, Milton Keynes is covered in crabapples. Happy? Delirious. ;-) Golden Delirious? |
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:07:36 +0100, "Basil Jet"
wrote: Bruce wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:46:17 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples. Covered! Inches deep! At least it was when i was there. An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches? To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths. So not statistically significant ... I didn't take measurements while i was there, but going from memory, i would say that the mean depth of crabapples was 2.1 inches, with a standard deviation of 0.4 inches. So to P 0.05, Milton Keynes is covered in crabapples. Happy? Delirious. ;-) Golden Delirious? Red delirious, and getting redder by the minute. ;-) |
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