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Roland Perry wrote: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? And I don't think another famous DLR station is anywhere near a working Wharf for ships from the Canary Islands... Although the same could be said for Olympia. And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. |
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, at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " remarked: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? The Customs House still exists I presume (just like the Royal Exchange I was in yesterday, but re-purposed). The Custom House is much less likely to disappear than ExCel is to be turned into something completely different with a new name, after people give up trying to run trade shows in a falling consumer market. And I don't think another famous DLR station is anywhere near a working Wharf for ships from the Canary Islands... As with many examples floated here, that's the name of the district now. Although the same could be said for Olympia. And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? -- Roland Perry |
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On Jul 23, 3:08 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " remarked: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? The Customs House still exists I presume (just like the Royal Exchange I was in yesterday, but re-purposed). The Custom House is much less likely to disappear than ExCel is to be turned into something completely different with a new name, after people give up trying to run trade shows in a falling consumer market. And I don't think another famous DLR station is anywhere near a working Wharf for ships from the Canary Islands... As with many examples floated here, that's the name of the district now. Although the same could be said for Olympia. And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? -- Roland Perry another pub ?? |
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Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " remarked: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? The Customs House still exists I presume (just like the Royal Exchange I was in yesterday, but re-purposed). The Custom House is much less likely to disappear than ExCel is to be turned into something completely different with a new name, after people give up trying to run trade shows in a falling consumer market. But the ExCel site could still physically exist, even if it was used for something else. Just like the Custom House. What's the difference? Why shouldn't the ExCel lend its name to the station and the area, just like the Custom House did before it? And I don't think another famous DLR station is anywhere near a working Wharf for ships from the Canary Islands... As with many examples floated here, that's the name of the district now. Yes. That was the point I was sarcastically trying to make. Although the same could be said for Olympia. And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? The Centrale shopping mall. Talking of stations named (or renamed) after shopping malls, there's also Surrey Quays. |
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wrote Talking of stations named (or renamed) after shopping malls, there's also Surrey Quays. That was Surrey Docks until all the docks got filled in. Peter |
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Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " remarked: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? The Customs House still exists I presume (just like the Royal Exchange I was in yesterday, but re-purposed). The Custom House is much less likely to disappear than ExCel is to be turned into something completely different with a new name, after people give up trying to run trade shows in a falling consumer market. But the ExCel site could still physically exist, even if it was used for something else. Just like the Custom House. What's the difference? Why shouldn't the ExCel lend its name to the station and the area, just like the Custom House did before it? But the ExCel complex would be renamed if someone else took it over, unlike Custom House. |
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wrote in message ... Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " remarked: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? The Customs House still exists I presume (just like the Royal Exchange I was in yesterday, but re-purposed). The Custom House is much less likely to disappear than ExCel is to be turned into something completely different with a new name, after people give up trying to run trade shows in a falling consumer market. But the ExCel site could still physically exist, even if it was used for something else. Just like the Custom House. What's the difference? Why shouldn't the ExCel lend its name to the station and the area, just like the Custom House did before it? And I don't think another famous DLR station is anywhere near a working Wharf for ships from the Canary Islands... As with many examples floated here, that's the name of the district now. Yes. That was the point I was sarcastically trying to make. Although the same could be said for Olympia. And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? The Centrale shopping mall. Talking of stations named (or renamed) after shopping malls, there's also Surrey Quays. And Brent Cross. Peter Smyth |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? The Centrale shopping centre. Sorry, "shopping and lifestyle destination" http://www.centrale.co.uk Tram information systems pronounce it as in Amsterdam, but buses seem to say it as in Milton Keynes. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 23 July, 15:08, Roland Perry wrote:
The Customs House still exists I presume (just like the Royal Exchange I was in yesterday, but re-purposed). The Custom House is much less likely to disappear than ExCel is to be turned into something completely different with a new name, after people give up trying to run trade shows in a falling consumer market. I've fairly certain the actual Custom House has been demolished. U |
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Arthur Figgis wrote in
: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? The Centrale shopping centre. Sorry, "shopping and lifestyle destination" http://www.centrale.co.uk Tram information systems pronounce it as in Amsterdam, but buses seem to say it as in Milton Keynes. How do they say it in Milton Keynes? |
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On Jul 23, 7:23 pm, James Farrar wrote:
Arthur Figgis wrote : Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? The Centrale shopping centre. Sorry, "shopping and lifestyle destination"http://www.centrale.co.uk Tram information systems pronounce it as in Amsterdam, but buses seem to say it as in Milton Keynes. How do they say it in Milton Keynes? And I was assuming it was meant to be Italian - Chentralay |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Basil Jet wrote:
Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone. Wasn't that a cake shop rather than a pub? Oh, i see it was a pub before that. Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, which has not one but four stations named after it! Not LU or in London, but Denham Golf Club always strikes me as a funny case of this. tom -- Oh, and sometimes in order to survive you have to drink the irradiated water from an old toilet. -- Jon, on Fallout |
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"James Farrar" wrote in message . 1.4... How do they say it in Milton Keynes? Just plain central. As opposed to centraal which is how the Dutch refer to the main station in Amsterdam and seemingly how the tram announcers in Croydon pronounce it. However if you're trying to be a smart arse, I'm sure the the residents of Milton Keynes don't routinely talk about a shopping centre in Croydon. -- David |
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, at 09:22:58 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " remarked: The Customs House still exists I presume (just like the Royal Exchange I was in yesterday, but re-purposed). The Custom House is much less likely to disappear than ExCel is to be turned into something completely different with a new name, after people give up trying to run trade shows in a falling consumer market. But the ExCel site could still physically exist, even if it was used for something else. Just like the Custom House. What's the difference? Why shouldn't the ExCel lend its name to the station and the area, just like the Custom House did before it? Mainly because it's much less likely to retain its name if turned into housing, a hotel, business units or whatever. -- Roland Perry |
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"James Farrar" wrote in message
. 1.4... How do they say it in Milton Keynes? Bletch-lay. Ian |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:38:56 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Basil Jet wrote: Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone. Wasn't that a cake shop rather than a pub? Oh, i see it was a pub before that. Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, which has not one but four stations named after it! Heathrow was a village on Hounslow Heath, which gave its name to the airport. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:He...War_II_Map.jpg |
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On 23 Jul 2009 18:23:26 GMT, James Farrar
wrote: How do they say it in Milton Keynes? "It" |
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Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Christopher A. Lee remarked: Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, cough except I ruled out airports in my original posting. -- Roland Perry |
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On Jul 23, 3:52*pm, "Basil Jet"
wrote: wrote: Roland Perry wrote: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? And I don't think another famous DLR station is anywhere near a working Wharf for ships from the Canary Islands... *Although the same could be said for Olympia. And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would that be the Blue Angel by any chance between the old tube station and the RBS offices? |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:27:44 -0400, Christopher A. Lee
wrote: Heathrow was a village on Hounslow Heath, which gave its name to the airport. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:He...War_II_Map.jpg Earlier maps had it as "Heath Row". |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:43:01 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 15:27:44 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Christopher A. Lee remarked: Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, That was the guy I responded to, not I. I merely pointed out that the airport took its name from the village on Hounslow Heath. cough except I ruled out airports in my original posting. |
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In message , at 17:26:07 on
Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Christopher A. Lee remarked: Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, That was the guy I responded to, not I. Yes, that's why it had two chevrons. I must have changed my mind and deleted whatever my other comment was to yourself. -- Roland Perry |
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Tom Anderson wrote in
rth.li: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Basil Jet wrote: Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone. Wasn't that a cake shop rather than a pub? Oh, i see it was a pub before that. Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, which has not one but four stations named after it! Four? I count either three or five: H123 and Heathrow Central; two T4s; and a T5. |
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"David Morgan" wrote in
o.uk: "James Farrar" wrote in message . 1.4... How do they say it in Milton Keynes? Just plain central. Really? Weird. Why do they have a second "e"? |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote in
: On 23 Jul 2009 18:23:26 GMT, James Farrar wrote: How do they say it in Milton Keynes? "It" Well done. |
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TimB wrote:
On Jul 23, 7:23 pm, James Farrar wrote: Arthur Figgis wrote : Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? The Centrale shopping centre. Sorry, "shopping and lifestyle destination"http://www.centrale.co.uk Tram information systems pronounce it as in Amsterdam, but buses seem to say it as in Milton Keynes. How do they say it in Milton Keynes? And I was assuming it was meant to be Italian - Chentralay That's one variant I've not heard. It also seems that the "innit" isn't written :) -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 24 Jul 2009 06:18:14 GMT, James Farrar
wrote: Really? Weird. Why do they have a second "e"? So it is trademarkable? Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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In message , at 11:17:19
on Fri, 24 Jul 2009, David Cantrell remarked: I see that the DLR has "Custom House for ExCel", the latter being somewhere that might not survive in its current form during an extended recession. Why would that be a problem any more than the fact that there hasn't been a working Customs House there for ages either? And it's not as if it's the only one either. How about "Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich"? The station isn't called "Custom House for Excel", it's Custom House, the "for Excel" bit being a useful description to help the vast number of visitors who don't know the area and for whom the name of the station isn't helpful. I was using a London Connections map which has the "for ExCel" on it. -- Roland Perry |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:38:56 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Basil Jet wrote: Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone. Wasn't that a cake shop rather than a pub? Oh, i see it was a pub before that. Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, which has not one but four stations named after it! Heathrow was a village on Hounslow Heath, which gave its name to the airport. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:He...War_II_Map.jpg Firstly, i believe that was called Heath Row, not Heathrow, and secondly, the stations aren't named after the village, they're named after the airport. tom -- Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. -- Dehnadi and Bornat |
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:27:44 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Christopher A. Lee remarked: Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, cough except I ruled out airports in my original posting. Dear god man, you say that as if you expected me to read before posting! The very idea! tom -- Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. -- Dehnadi and Bornat |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, James Farrar wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote in rth.li: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Basil Jet wrote: Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone. Wasn't that a cake shop rather than a pub? Oh, i see it was a pub before that. Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, which has not one but four stations named after it! Four? I count either three or five: H123 and Heathrow Central; two T4s; and a T5. Ah, i was single-counting the T4s. My bad. tom -- Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. -- Dehnadi and Bornat |
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And it's not as if it's the only one either. *How about "Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich"? *The station isn't called "Custom House for Excel", it's Custom House, the "for Excel" bit being a useful description to help the vast number of visitors who don't know the area and for whom the name of the station isn't helpful. Last time I was there it was called "Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich for the University of Greenwich", with the "CSfMG" in big. |
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On 24 July, 08:58, Arthur Figgis wrote:
TimB wrote: On Jul 23, 7:23 pm, James Farrar wrote: Arthur Figgis wrote : Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:35:07 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009, " And don't forget Centrale in Croydon. What's that named after? The Centrale shopping centre. Sorry, "shopping and lifestyle destination"http://www.centrale.co.uk Tram information systems pronounce it as in Amsterdam, but buses seem to say it as in Milton Keynes. How do they say it in Milton Keynes? And I was assuming it was meant to be Italian - Chentralay That's one variant I've not heard. It also seems that the "innit" isn't written :) It's a while since I last visited Croydon, but in my mind's voice, I always assumed that it would be pronounced "cent-rail". Robin |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:48:33 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Christopher A. Lee wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:38:56 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Basil Jet wrote: Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone. Wasn't that a cake shop rather than a pub? Oh, i see it was a pub before that. Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, which has not one but four stations named after it! Heathrow was a village on Hounslow Heath, which gave its name to the airport. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:He...War_II_Map.jpg Firstly, i believe that was called Heath Row, not Heathrow, and secondly, Not according to the map in the above URL. the stations aren't named after the village, they're named after the airport. tom |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:48:33 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: Firstly, i believe that was called Heath Row, not Heathrow Funny, I posted to that effect yesterday. |
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"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
More correctly, the village/locality/whatever was named from an actual "row" of houses alongside the Great West Road on Hounslow Heath. The locality was apparently once especially notorious for highwaymen and footpads....... Presumably their descendants became baggage handlers at 'Thiefrow'? |
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On Jul 24, 7:06*pm, Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , Christopher A. Lee writes On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:48:33 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Christopher A. Lee wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:38:56 +0100, Tom Anderson wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Basil Jet wrote: Several stations are named after pubs: IIRC the Angel pub at Angel is not the original, which is gone. Wasn't that a cake shop rather than a pub? Oh, i see it was a pub before that. Anyway, everyones missed the most obvious example - Heathrow Airport, which has not one but four stations named after it! Heathrow was a village on Hounslow Heath, which gave its name to the airport. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:He...War_II_Map.jpg Firstly, i believe that was called Heath Row, not Heathrow, and secondly, Not according to the map in the above URL. More correctly, the village/locality/whatever was named from an actual "row" of houses alongside the Great West Road on Hounslow Heath. * The locality was apparently once especially notorious for highwaymen and footpads....... Might this be why the highwayman in the Beggars' Opera is named Captain Macheath? Andy |
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