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Amongst all the transport announcements yesterday and today, approval has
been given for the Victoria underground station upgrades:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/dl/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

With the inspectors report he

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/ir/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

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On Jul 23, 4:59*pm, "Paul Scott"
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Amongst all the transport announcements yesterday and today, approval has
been given for the Victoria underground station upgrades:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/dl/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

With the inspectors report he

*http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/ir/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

Hope of interest

Paul S


The DfT have certainly been busy little bunnies this week.
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On Jul 23, 8:59*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Amongst all the transport announcements yesterday and today, approval has
been given for the Victoria underground station upgrades:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/dl/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

With the inspectors report he

*http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/ir/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

Hope of interest

Paul S


IIR It is not so very long since Victoria Station was last upgraded.
Again, IIRC, that was a new link between the District & Circle, and
Victoria Lines.

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On 2009-07-23, 1506 wrote:


On Jul 23, 8:59*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Amongst all the transport announcements yesterday and today, approval has
been given for the Victoria underground station upgrades:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/dl/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

With the inspectors report he

*http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/ir/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

Hope of interest

Paul S


IIR It is not so very long since Victoria Station was last upgraded.
Again, IIRC, that was a new link between the District & Circle, and
Victoria Lines.


Victoria has been the way it is now for at least 20 years (probably
longer, that's just my personal knowledge).

E.
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT), 1506
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On Jul 23, 8:59 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Amongst all the transport announcements yesterday and today,
approval has been given for the Victoria underground station
upgrades:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/dl/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

With the inspectors report he

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/twa/ir/vic...ionupgrade.pdf

Hope of interest

Paul S


IIR It is not so very long since Victoria Station was last upgraded.
Again, IIRC, that was a new link between the District & Circle, and
Victoria Lines.


It was a long while back (late 80s / early 90s?) and provided only
marginal relief to a couple of staircases off the eastbound District
Line platform.


Early 90s according to the latter report.

Victoria is a nightmare station to use and while a
£500m scheme is jolly nice I fear that the really important solution
- an extra Vic Line platform - is probably never going to arrive.


Has that been planned in detail Paul? Presumably it would effectively allow
a doubling of platformed time for trains in the peak direction only, whilst
maintaining the full service frequency. So to allow use in both peaks with
the simplest track layout one of the existing platforms would have to become
a bidirectional central road.

Paul S




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On Jul 23, 8:25*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:

Given where we got to in 2008 with tube demand levels and growth rates
the scheme would most probably have been justified if those sorts of
numbers had been used in the original project evaluation. However that
sort of comment throws us back to the 60s when the Vic Line was
subjected to all sorts of cuts at the design / construction stage to
save money. *Again no one could envisage the line would be carrying
three times its predicted ridership within 40 years and hence we are
saddled with people stuck in queues to get off platforms, up escalators
or even into stations (as at Victoria in the morning rush).


And, in my experience in the evening peak, getting out in the
direction of the rail station is sometimes seriously obstructed by
people trying to get down the stairs - nobody marshalling the queue at
surface level, where it extends back into the rail station. If I have
the time, I prefer to use my bus pass to get back to Victoria.



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