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Smelly, slow and uninformative. Thanks to Walthamstow central being
closed, the "helpful" person at the gate (who barely spoke any
English), told me to get a bus to Leyton (Should have walked to
balckhorse road). Got on, you get the dreggs of the earth on them,
theres no information, no route maps on the bus telling you where you
are, they are constantly caught up in traffic (mainly other busses
pulling into and out of stops), and I got into work half an hour late.
I'm unimpressed.

Solution

1) Ban smelly people with things living in their hair
2) Each bus should have a route map like on the tube, so you can see
where you've been, where you are, and where you're going, complete
with interchanges onto the much superior underground and national rail
3) There should be announcments for each stop (whether the bus stops
there or not)
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Paul Weaver wrote:
Smelly, slow and uninformative. Thanks to Walthamstow central being
closed, the "helpful" person at the gate (who barely spoke any
English), told me to get a bus to Leyton (Should have walked to
balckhorse road). Got on, you get the dreggs of the earth on them,
theres no information, no route maps on the bus telling you where you
are, they are constantly caught up in traffic (mainly other busses
pulling into and out of stops), and I got into work half an hour late.
I'm unimpressed.

Solution

1) Ban smelly people with things living in their hair
2) Each bus should have a route map like on the tube, so you can see
where you've been, where you are, and where you're going, complete
with interchanges onto the much superior underground and national rail
3) There should be announcments for each stop (whether the bus stops
there or not)


4) Ban people who can't spell buses.

The RV1 route in central London has (2) and (3).
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:35:54 GMT, "Richard J."
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4) Ban people who can't spell buses.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=buses
bus
n. pl. bus·es or bus·ses
[snip]

It's not the OED I know, but is accepted.


Cheers,

Jason.
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"Jason" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:35:54 GMT, "Richard J."
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4) Ban people who can't spell buses.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=buses
bus
n. pl. bus·es or bus·ses
[snip]

It's not the OED I know, but is accepted.

Alright, then - ban people who can't spell dregs (dreggs) or announcements
(announcments) instead!

;-)


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Jason wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:35:54 GMT, "Richard J."
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4) Ban people who can't spell buses.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=buses
bus
n. pl. bus·es or bus·ses
[snip]

It's not the OED I know, but is accepted.


Accepted in the US, maybe. The site uses American dictionaries and is based
in Los Angeles, so it's not surprising that it includes the American variant
spelling "busses". The plural of "bus" in British English is always
"buses". (Source: New Oxford Dictionary of English, 2001)
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(Richard J.) wrote:

Jason wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:35:54 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

4) Ban people who can't spell buses.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=buses
bus
n. pl. bus·es or bus·ses
[snip]

It's not the OED I know, but is accepted.


Accepted in the US, maybe. The site uses American dictionaries and is
based in Los Angeles, so it's not surprising that it includes the
American variant spelling "busses". The plural of "bus" in British
English is always "buses". (Source: New Oxford Dictionary of English,
2001)


Given that the derivation of "bus" is as an abbreviation of "omnibus", I
should b* well hope so.

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:46:00 +0100, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
Given that the derivation of "bus" is as an abbreviation of "omnibus", I
should b* well hope so.


Out of interest how to spelling-nazis spell the park named after St. James?

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:35:54 GMT, "Richard J."
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The RV1 route in central London has (2) and (3).


(3) could easily be provided on all buses, as it is in Europe, by
fitting hands-free PA and making it legal for drivers to use it (as I
believe in some cases it is not).

Announcement of stops is a cheap, easy thing to do, and provides a
massive service improvement to those who don't know where they are.

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"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:35:54 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

The RV1 route in central London has (2) and (3).


(3) could easily be provided on all buses, as it is in Europe, by
fitting hands-free PA and making it legal for drivers to use it (as I
believe in some cases it is not).

Announcement of stops is a cheap, easy thing to do, and provides a
massive service improvement to those who don't know where they are.

On the streetcars here in Toronto, the driver announces each stop well
before it's reached but the road system is so simple it's nearly impossible
to get lost.
I'm not so sure it would particularly easy on London bus routes; there are
many stops that wouldn't be easy to name. Stops at well known places;
stations, large shops, pubs and cinemas for sure, but what about all the
stops in not very memorable places?

Kat in Downtown Toronto



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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:36:23 -0400, "Janice"
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I'm not so sure it would particularly easy on London bus routes; there are
many stops that wouldn't be easy to name. Stops at well known places;
stations, large shops, pubs and cinemas for sure, but what about all the
stops in not very memorable places?


The German practice is to name all stops, either after the road
they're on or a nearby landmark. This name is then clearly publicised
on maps, timetables, announcements, stop flags and shelters etc. Very
helpful - and to save stressing you can note the name of the one or
two before the one you require and be listening out for that.

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