What is the acronym for those road speed cameras they have on the A14 - not
the flashing Gatso ones, but rather the type that record your number plate
as you approach and then measure the time taken until you pass the next one?

Are they scheduled for a more wider roll-out within London?

As people can't just 'dip' their speed as they pass them, making them harder
to 'cheat' that the Gatso type, are they not likely to be favoured by the
police?

Mike

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:20:44 +0000, mjw1 wrote:

What is the acronym for those road speed cameras they have on the A14 - not
the flashing Gatso ones, but rather the type that record your number plate
as you approach and then measure the time taken until you pass the next one?

SPECCS?

What is the acronym for those road speed cameras they have on the A14 -
not
the flashing Gatso ones, but rather the type that record your number plate
as you approach and then measure the time taken until you pass the next
one?

Are they scheduled for a more wider roll-out within London?

As people can't just 'dip' their speed as they pass them, making them
harder
to 'cheat' that the Gatso type, are they not likely to be favoured by the
police?

They are Called SPECS cameras. They are a better idea than GATSOs, but not
all roads are suited as they have to contain a stretch of road which does
not have any turnoffs.
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They are Called SPECS cameras. They are a better idea
than GATSOs, but not all roads are suited as they have to
contain a stretch of road which does not have any turnoffs.

Why? If you don't reach the second camera within X seconds you haven't
broken the law, so your number can be discarded, and whether you then show
up at the second camera a few seconds later or have turned away is
irrelevant.

IMO every SPECS camera in the country should be linked, and whenever you
pass one your number should be transmitted to every other camera in the
country along with a "discard-by" time, and if you are busted if you arrive
at any other camera before your number is discarded by that camera. It would
also bring an instant end to license plate cloning, because the system would
see these cars as travelling at 1000s of miles an hour, and the police could
instantly be alerted to the location of both cars.

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Why? If you don't reach the second camera within X seconds you haven't
broken the law, so your number can be discarded

Because People could not slow down for the cameras and turn off:
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"Joe" wrote in message
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Why? If you don't reach the second camera within X seconds you haven't
broken the law, so your number can be discarded

Because People could not slow down for the cameras and turn off:

If you're suggesting that people will whizz past the first camera and then
use some rat run to avoid the second, the rat run would consume more time
than staying on the main road and obeying the speed limit, so I can't see
the point of anyone doing that. If you're talking about people whose
destination is in the side road, then okay, SPECS won't catch them, but even
on a long road with no side roads, people whose house is within the SPECS
pair will never be caught for speeding. At least it will stop most people
from speeding, whereas the current
foot-on-the-floor-whoops-there's-a-gatso-slam-on-the-brakes-okay-foot-on-the
-floor-again style of driving makes the law into a laughing stock.

The first place they should put SPECS is on every road currently blighted
with speed humps, so they can remove the bloody things. Does anyone know the
relative cost of SPECS versus speed humps?

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John Rowland wrote:

The first place they should put SPECS is on every road currently blighted
with speed humps, so they can remove the bloody things. Does anyone know the
relative cost of SPECS versus speed humps?

I think they cost more. More to the point, London boroughs can put in
speed humps without involving TfL. A lot more hoops have to be jumped
through to install any sort of camera.

Colin McKenzie

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:20:12 +0000, John Rowland wrote:
IMO every SPECS camera in the country should be linked, and whenever you
pass one your number should be transmitted to every other camera in the
country along with a "discard-by" time, and if you are busted if you arrive


sure, discard, that'll happen.

Bye bye privacy

"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
IMO every SPECS camera in the country should be linked, and whenever you
pass one your number should be transmitted to every other camera in the
country along with a "discard-by" time, and if you are busted if you arrive
at any other camera before your number is discarded by that camera. It would
also bring an instant end to license plate cloning, because the system would
see these cars as travelling at 1000s of miles an hour, and the police could
instantly be alerted to the location of both cars.

And whats the next phase in your Big Brother scheme? Record the faces of the
drivers in the cars which can be matched by a facial recognition system?
How far does this go? If speed limits were reasonable I wouldn't mind these
bloody cameras but a lot of the time they've been set deliberately low just so
as to catch as many drivers and hence raise as much revenue as possible.
2 prime examples spring to mind - the 40mph limit on the 6 lane north circular
at many points and the cameras on the A45 coming out of Birmingham.
Fortunately the latter are backwards facing cameras and I've solved the
problem of getting anymore tickets by permanently removing my front license
plate. Did that a year ago and despite driving past many plods have yet to be
stopped for it and I'd recommend everyone else who is fed up with being
extorted by the police do the same.

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
And whats the next phase in your Big Brother scheme? Record the faces of the
drivers in the cars which can be matched by a facial recognition system?
How far does this go? If speed limits were reasonable I wouldn't mind these
bloody cameras but a lot of the time they've been set deliberately low just so
as to catch as many drivers and hence raise as much revenue as possible.

I can think of perhaps 2 locations where this is true, but...

2 prime examples spring to mind - the 40mph limit on the 6 lane north circular

.... this is a gray area because of the relativly high volume of
unprotected pedestrian traffic in those areas.

at many points and the cameras on the A45 coming out of Birmingham.

Never seen the road, so can't comment.

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