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"Basil Jet" wrote in message

Recliner wrote:
"Chris Tolley" (ukonline really) wrote in
message
Recliner wrote:

Would LU stop the film-makers from using something that more
closely resembles Johnston?

They'd just expect a financial consideration for doing so.

The funny thing about that station sign is that it's plain wrong,
quite apart from the font. It's a modified UndergrounD roundel, with
the station name instead of UndergrounD (in the wrong font). Actual
LT station roundels from 1940 look quite different, and can cope with
longer or shorter station names.

I don't know what sort of sign you are describing, but Southgate (I
think) had a roundel outside with the station name instead of
"Underground".

I think that the style of roundel used for the Union Street station name
is specifically one that doesn't include station names. It has the two
lines with embedded diamonds linking the larger first and last letters
(which works with a U and a T, just as it does with a U and a D), but
wouldn't work with many other names, nor ones that are much shorter or
longer. Roundels with station names are widely used, but without those
horizontal lines, or the larger first and last letters.

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Recliner wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message

Recliner wrote:

The funny thing about that station sign is that it's plain wrong,
quite apart from the font. It's a modified UndergrounD roundel, with
the station name instead of UndergrounD (in the wrong font). Actual
LT station roundels from 1940 look quite different, and can cope
with longer or shorter station names.

I don't know what sort of sign you are describing, but Southgate (I
think) had a roundel outside with the station name instead of
"Underground".

I think that the style of roundel used for the Union Street station
name is specifically one that doesn't include station names. It has
the two lines with embedded diamonds linking the larger first and
last letters (which works with a U and a T, just as it does with a U
and a D), but wouldn't work with many other names, nor ones that are
much shorter or longer. Roundels with station names are widely used,
but without those horizontal lines, or the larger first and last
letters.

AFAIK roundels with station names only now exist on platforms. The one at
Southgate was in the street.

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"Basil Jet" wrote in message

Recliner wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message

Recliner wrote:

The funny thing about that station sign is that it's plain wrong,
quite apart from the font. It's a modified UndergrounD roundel,
with the station name instead of UndergrounD (in the wrong font).
Actual LT station roundels from 1940 look quite different, and can
cope with longer or shorter station names.

I don't know what sort of sign you are describing, but Southgate (I
think) had a roundel outside with the station name instead of
"Underground".

I think that the style of roundel used for the Union Street station
name is specifically one that doesn't include station names. It has
the two lines with embedded diamonds linking the larger first and
last letters (which works with a U and a T, just as it does with a U
and a D), but wouldn't work with many other names, nor ones that are
much shorter or longer. Roundels with station names are widely used,
but without those horizontal lines, or the larger first and last
letters.

AFAIK roundels with station names only now exist on platforms. The
one at Southgate was in the street.

You may be right -- I don't know. A little Google Street View research
may be in order. But that Union Street sign is obviously on the platform
wall.

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"Basil Jet" wrote in message

Recliner wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message

Recliner wrote:

The funny thing about that station sign is that it's plain wrong,
quite apart from the font. It's a modified UndergrounD roundel,
with the station name instead of UndergrounD (in the wrong font).
Actual LT station roundels from 1940 look quite different, and can
cope with longer or shorter station names.

I don't know what sort of sign you are describing, but Southgate (I
think) had a roundel outside with the station name instead of
"Underground".

I think that the style of roundel used for the Union Street station
name is specifically one that doesn't include station names. It has
the two lines with embedded diamonds linking the larger first and
last letters (which works with a U and a T, just as it does with a U
and a D), but wouldn't work with many other names, nor ones that are
much shorter or longer. Roundels with station names are widely used,
but without those horizontal lines, or the larger first and last
letters.

AFAIK roundels with station names only now exist on platforms. The
one at Southgate was in the street.

This is what Street View now shows at Southgate:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Southgate,+Enfield,+Gr eater+London+N14,+United+Kingdom&sll=42.213928,-83.193815&sspn=0.082386,0.084629&g=southgate&ie=UT F8&cd=3&geocode=FdLZEwMdHgz-_w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Southgate,+Greater+London,+Un ited+Kingdom&ll=51.632398,-0.127354&spn=0.000972,0.003433&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cb ll=51.632547,-0.127723&panoid=Hf3ZVPE0gs7VUw33nTAN3A&cbp=12,252. 23,,0,-4.63

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AFAIK roundels with station names only now exist on platforms. The
one at Southgate was in the street.

This is what Street View now shows at Southgate:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Southgate,+Enfield...

Here is a selection of roundels at Mile End:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour.... 26,,1,-5.74

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"David" wrote in message

AFAIK roundels with station names only now exist on platforms. The
one at Southgate was in the street.

This is what Street View now shows at Southgate:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Southgate,+Enfield...

Here is a selection of roundels at Mile End:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour.... 26,,1,-5.74

That is a motley collection indeed! But none of the three commits the
errors that Union Street manages.

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In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:

This is what Street View now shows at Southgate:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...uthgate,+Enfie
ld,+Greater+London+N14,+United+Kingdom&sll=42.2139 28,-83.193815&sspn
=0.082386,0.084629&g=southgate&ie=UTF8&cd=3&geocod e=FdLZEwMdHgz-_w&s
plit=0&hq=&hnear=Southgate,+Greater+London,+United +Kingdom&ll=51.632
398,-0.127354&spn=0.000972,0.003433&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cb ll=51.632547,
-0.127723&panoid=Hf3ZVPE0gs7VUw33nTAN3A&cbp=12,252. 23,,0,-4.63

"We could not understand the location Southgate, Greater London, United
Ki" here.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...nfield,+Gr ea
ter+London+N14,+United+Kingdom&sll=42.213928,-83.193815&sspn=0.082386,0.084
629&g=southgate&ie=UTF8&cd=3&geocode=FdLZEwMdHgz-_w&split=0&hq=&hnear=South
gate,+Greater+London,+United+Ki› or http://snipurl.com/siia0 seems to work.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Recliner wrote:

"Peter Smyth" wrote in message

The disused Kingsway Tramway will be open for tours from 8th Oct - 8th
Nov. See http://measure.org.uk/measurenews.html for details on how to
book. Apparently there will be some coloured string to look at as
well.

Thanks for the alert. I went this lunch time, and here's some of the
pics I took:
www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/sets/72157622549498612/detail

What a load of bobbins!

Good pics.

tom

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double mashed, future mashed, millennium mashed; man it was mashed

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David wrote:
AFAIK roundels with station names only now exist on platforms. The
one at Southgate was in the street.

This is what Street View now shows at Southgate:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Southgate,+Enfield...

Here is a selection of roundels at Mile End:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour.... 26,,1,-5.74

applause

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David writes:
Here is a selection of roundels at Mile End:

They're kind of sinister in a group like that...

-Miles

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erroneously repeated.