Now that the new wide gates have replaced the old manual ones I notice
a reduction in staff hear the barriers. A couple of time recently at
High Street Ken at about 2000 there have been no staff visible
anywhere.

Are we moving to the Paris Metro situation where the staff can remain
in the office and only come out if there is a problem or are they
reducing the number of staff at stations ?

trainmanUK gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Are we moving to the Paris Metro situation where the staff can remain in
the office and only come out if there is a problem

Moving to?

That's been the case at some tube stations since barriers were installed.
No staff on duty, barriers left open (where there are barriers).

On 22 Oct 2009 09:21:26 GMT
Adrian wrote:
trainmanUK gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Are we moving to the Paris Metro situation where the staff can remain in
the office and only come out if there is a problem

Moving to?

That's been the case at some tube stations since barriers were installed.
No staff on duty, barriers left open (where there are barriers).

Not at my station where in the mornings 2 or 3 of the staff crowd around the
barriers watching everyone going through. Its nice to have staff at hand
if theres a problem but the way this lot do it its like going through the
bouncers at a club.

B2003

On 22 Oct 2009 09:21:26 GMT, Adrian wrote:

That's been the case at some tube stations since barriers were installed.
No staff on duty, barriers left open (where there are barriers).

I forget where it was, but I have had to barge through a barrier at a
LU station because it was left with no staff on duty, the manual gate
locked *and* the emergency open button was non-functional.

I had a valid ticket which had worked fine elsewhere but for some
reason wouldn't activate any of the barriers on that barrier line.

With hindsight I should have reported this, as it could have become a
very serious issue in the event of a fire.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:41:44 GMT
(Neil Williams) wrote:
I forget where it was, but I have had to barge through a barrier at a
LU station because it was left with no staff on duty, the manual gate
locked *and* the emergency open button was non-functional.

I had a valid ticket which had worked fine elsewhere but for some
reason wouldn't activate any of the barriers on that barrier line.

With hindsight I should have reported this, as it could have become a
very serious issue in the event of a fire.

If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

B2003

In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:26:52 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

They managed a flat fare in New York. You ever looked at the distance between
Times Square and Far Rockaway?

B2003

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 05:26:52PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.
A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

It's quite right that people should be penalised for taking the tube
from Covent Garden to Leicester Square instead of walking.

--
David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire

On the bright side, if sendmail is tied up routing spam and pointless
uknot posts, it's not waving its arse around saying "root me!"
-- Peter Corlett, in uknot

In message of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:26:52
in uk.transport.london, Roland Perry writes
In message , at 10:58:17 on Thu, 22 Oct 2009,
remarked:
If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

A flat fare system that coped with Covent Garden to Leicester Square as
well as Epping to Aylesbury, would be a feat to behold.

Why Aylesbury?
http://www.davros.org/rail/culg/metropolitan.html has
"1961-09-10 Amersham to Aylesbury (1) withdrawn"
Could Boris, with his interest in Ancient History, be persuaded to
organise Oyster access to this line? It is only 4 stations: Great
Missenden, Wendover, Stoke Mandeville and Aylesbury.
--
Walter Briscoe

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:02:29 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:58:17 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

If london had a flat fare system it wouldn't need all this overcomplicated
gate ******** anyway. You'd pay the fare to get through the entry gates with
a token or oyster or whatever and the exit gates could be freely revolving
turnstyles.

But we don't and never, ever will have so have a nice daydream.

Well no we won't - not while public transport is looked upon as a potential
money making business rather than a public service.

B2003