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On 29 Oct, 17:05, E27002 wrote:
On Oct 29, 9:51*am, Jamie *Thompson wrote: On 29 Oct, 15:22, E27002 wrote: Rather than build a new tunnel from Kings Cross to Bermondsy, would it not be easier to extend the GN Electric tunnel from Moorgate? It might seem so, but things to consider: a) It's size cannot handle OHLE, which any new infrastructure should be built to support (one day the southern network will be brought into line ;)) b) It has metro station-spacing, unsuitable for a service serving an area as wide as Thameslink (Cambridge to Essex Road, anyone?). c) Said station are too short, and would be expensive to extend. d) Closing said stations to remedy b&c would be unpopular with existing users. ...and finally, e) Extending the tunnel from Moorgate means cutting through both the planned Crossrail station's escalators, as well as the Northern line tunnels. Ergo, I think a new Crossrail-gauge tunnel from either Finsbury or Ally Pally would be best, with stations at Finsbury Park, Moorgate- Bank, Cannon Street-London Bridge, and Surrey Canal Junction. However, either tunnel option would miss out on interchanging with KXSP, forcing an interchange at Liverpool St. and a trip back along the Circle. My preference for the NC tunnels would still have to deal with e), but covering the other considerations, would be to link it to the W&C, and from Finsbury up to Highgate, then along back to Ally Pally, before taking over the majority of the Hertford loop. Plans for the other end of the W&C take it down to Clapham and off elsewhere...but that's another thing entirely.- IIRC because of the way it is configured, extending the W&C from Waterloo would be very difficult. *There was once talk of adding a W&C station at Blackfriars. *That idea may have merrit. *But there would be little return for the very high investement. Quite. This conversation's been done to death elsewhere before, but IIRC, it's only an end-on junction at Waterloo that's problematic. Diverging just before should be relatively trouble-free compared to the hell of what awaits at the Bank end. I must say though, I am fond of the concept of a Blackfriars W&C station. The current-ish alternatives from Waterloo are a 16 minute walk, a trip to Embankment then (once it reopens!) along to Blackfriars, or amusingly...a trip to London Bridge, then a clipper to Blackfriars. Certainly not worth it as an isolated project on such a short line, but as part of a wider extension, it would stop passengers from Waterloo clogging up both Waterloo station and the Circle line's capacity (there's ample capacity between Waterloo and Embankment for that bit not to be an issue though). |
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On Oct 29, 10:42*am, Jamie Thompson wrote:
This conversation's been done to death elsewhere before, but IIRC, it's only an end-on junction at Waterloo that's problematic. Diverging just before should be relatively trouble-free compared to the hell of what awaits at the Bank end. I must say though, I am fond of the concept of a Blackfriars W&C station. The current-ish alternatives from Waterloo are a 16 minute walk, a trip to Embankment then (once it reopens!) along to Blackfriars, or amusingly...a trip to London Bridge, then a clipper to Blackfriars. Certainly not worth it as an isolated project on such a short line, but as part of a wider extension, it would stop passengers from Waterloo clogging up both Waterloo station and the Circle line's capacity (there's ample capacity between Waterloo and Embankment for that bit not to be an issue though). Hadn't really seen anything elsewhere, but, I do not follow every thread. If it can be done extending the W&C may make more sense that the westward Northern Line extension discussed here recently. A frequent tube service continuing to, and replacing, Vauxhall station, and both Battersea stations (at a new central location convenient for the new US embassy), would be useful and free up the SW mainline approach to Waterloo. It could continue to Wimbledon by surfacing before Clapham junction and using the outside pair to reach Putney, and then on to Wimbledon by sharing the District tracks. |
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from Bruce contains these words: What food does it serve? Balti? Tandoori? Pizza and Pasta? It seems odd that there should be such a thing as a "British Restaurant" when British cuisine has largely vanished. My local pub has stopped displaying its Curry Board because the demand for that style of cooking has dropped. On the other hand, they keep a rather nice gammon which is very popular, as is their home-made steak-and-ale pie. -- Dave, Frodsham http://dave-jackson.fotopic.net |
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:55:51 GMT, David Jackson
wrote: The message from Bruce contains these words: What food does it serve? Balti? Tandoori? Pizza and Pasta? It seems odd that there should be such a thing as a "British Restaurant" when British cuisine has largely vanished. My local pub has stopped displaying its Curry Board because the demand for that style of cooking has dropped. On the other hand, they keep a rather nice gammon which is very popular, as is their home-made steak-and-ale pie. My local pub became a Thai Restaurant, still with a bar. Many hostelries around Aylesbury have become Indian restaurants, some with, and some without bars. |
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On Oct 29, 11:55*am, David Jackson wrote:
The message from Bruce contains these words: What food does it serve? *Balti? *Tandoori? *Pizza and Pasta? It seems odd that there should be such a thing as a "British Restaurant" when British cuisine has largely vanished. My local pub has stopped displaying its Curry Board because the demand for that style of cooking has dropped. On the other hand, they keep a rather nice gammon which is very popular, as is their home-made steak-and-ale pie. http://www.jrfielding.com/live/views...StoryIndex=288 |
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from E27002 contains these words: http://www.jrfielding.com/live/views...StoryIndex=288 Thanks for the link. It's about time that USians had "proper" food available. The bloke who trims the remains of my hair has relatives in Transpondia, and he seems to spend his whole holiday over there in the kitchen, cooking enough real food to fill their freezer so that they'll be OK until his next visit. -- Dave, Frodsham http://dave-jackson.fotopic.net |
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On Oct 29, 1:49*pm, David Jackson wrote:
The message from E27002 contains these words: http://www.jrfielding.com/live/views...StoryIndex=288 Thanks for the link. It's about time that USians had "proper" food available. The bloke who trims the remains of my hair has relatives in Transpondia, and he seems to spend his whole holiday over there in the kitchen, cooking enough real food to fill their freezer so that they'll be OK until his next visit. Fortunately World Market now stocks a number of useful British items. So I needn't forgo PG Tips, or Typhoo. I can make birds custard for my American apple pie. Branston Pickle is available to give my salads a slight UK touch. Walker Shortbread and McVities Biscuits Biscuits (now there is an ambiguous word) are occasional treats. When I first worked in the US in 1982 I would go crazy for a cup of real tea. Eventually I would have family members send it over. |
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In uk.transport.london message ,
Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:39:52, Bill Borland posted: I do wish he'd said "British restaurant", not "British Restaurant". Horrible memories of 1939-1945. I think at least one may have been still running in the early/mid sixties. The Councillor's family may remember. It was probably near the middle of http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...q&hl=en&geocod e=&q=cambridge&sll=51.407017,-0.260955&sspn=0.008486,0.015256&ie=UTF8&hq =&hnear=Cambridge,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.205401,0.1 21434&spn=0.002084,0.0 05858&z=18&layer=c&cbll=52.205452,0.121306&panoid= PnmB3cj0TCP3vyjL76Mfsg &cbp=12,187.87,,0,7.47 -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. Turnpike v6.05. Web URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms PAS EXE etc : URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/ - see 00index.htm Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc. |
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:10:03 -0700 (PDT), E27002
wrote: Fortunately World Market now stocks a number of useful British items. So I needn't forgo PG Tips, or Typhoo. I can make birds custard for my American apple pie. Branston Pickle is available to give my salads a slight UK touch. Walker Shortbread and McVities Biscuits Biscuits (now there is an ambiguous word) are occasional treats. Must be a very lucrative contract if you can afford World Market ex-pat prices! ;) |
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On Oct 29, 3:47*pm, Mr.G wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:10:03 -0700 (PDT), E27002 wrote: Fortunately World Market now stocks a number of useful British items. So I needn't forgo PG Tips, or Typhoo. *I can make birds custard for my American apple pie. *Branston Pickle is available to give my salads a slight UK touch. *Walker Shortbread and McVities Biscuits Biscuits (now there is an ambiguous word) are occasional treats. Must be a very lucrative contract if you can afford World Market ex-pat prices! * ;) Tea is sixty three percent more than the UK price according to a very quick calculation still less than paying postage from the UK. And, I do not have to inconvenience family members. Still thanks for the thought provoking post. Next time I work a UK assignment I will be sure to add plenty of tea to "bring back" list. :-) |
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"E27002" wrote in message
... On Oct 29, 11:55 am, David Jackson wrote: The message from Bruce contains these words: What food does it serve? Balti? Tandoori? Pizza and Pasta? It seems odd that there should be such a thing as a "British Restaurant" when British cuisine has largely vanished. http://www.jrfielding.com/live/views...StoryIndex=288 When I was living in New York in 1991/2 I used the following establishment on about 1 out of every 6 Sundays to get a fix of home cuisine: http://www.teaandsympathynewyork.com/home.php Nearby is http://www.myersofkeswick.com/ With the odd wedge of (unpasteurised) Colston Bassett Stilton and other European cheeses from http://www.deandeluca.com/Default.aspx [1] + visitors from the UK wedging their baggage allowance with Heinz Baked Beans one could just about survive. D A Stocks [1] it looks like Dean & Deluca might have given up on British cheeses - I wonder why? |
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(Dr J R Stockton) wrote: In uk.transport.london message , Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:39:52, Bill Borland posted: I do wish he'd said "British restaurant", not "British Restaurant". Horrible memories of 1939-1945. I think at least one may have been still running in the early/mid sixties. The Councillor's family may remember. It was probably near the middle of http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...q=cambridge&sl l=51.407017,-0.260955&sspn=0.008486,0.015256&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear= Cambridge,+U nited+Kingdom&ll=52.205401,0.121434&spn=0.002084,0 .005858&z=18&layer=c&cbll =52.205452,0.121306&panoid=PnmB3cj0TCP3vyjL76Mfsg &cbp=12,187.87,,0,7.47 Not sure how we got onto the late lamented Cambridge Civic Restaurant (as it was when I knew it) in this thread. It was indeed on that corner. I only ever eat there once, when in Cambridge for my interview in 1967. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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"David A Stocks" writes:
[1] it looks like Dean & Deluca might have given up on British cheeses - I wonder why? Well, given the small selection on that web site, it's probably only a fraction of what they actually sell in the stores. [It seems very unlikely they wouldn't carry at least Stilton and some English Cheddar, given how famous they are.] -Miles -- "I distrust a research person who is always obviously busy on a task." --Robert Frosch, VP, GM Research |
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On Oct 29, 7:34*am, "Recliner" wrote:
"Tim Fenton" wrote in message "Recliner" wrote in message ... London tends to be less attractive than Edinburgh, Los Angeles, or Omaha. *But, you needn't be concerned; you have plenty of folks waiting in trucks at Calais. *I am sure they will be able to install and maintain software at your companies, financial institutions, etc. That sort of work for British companies is now normally done in Mumbai or Bangalore. *They're a lot cheaper than Edinburgh, Los Angeles, or Omaha. Last year, I was doing an assignment with a large services company which is, as they say, headquartered in the USA. They had identified a number of low (or lower) cost locations, some of which were *inside* the US. From memory, the Carolinas was one - not all of the country is prosperous. I suspect Omaha isn't exactly bank breakingly expensive either. Probably not, even though Warren Buffet, one of the world's richest men lives there. For one year I worked in Omaha doing a major reconfiguration of an accounting package. I found a very inexpensive apartment ten minutes walk from my client's campus. My rate was slightly lower than my previous assignment which had been in the San Francisco Bay area. However, because my costs were much lower it was an entirely more profitable venture. Moreover, the folks living in Douglas County, Nebraska where, by and large, very friendly. The work environment was more than pleasant. An unexpected bonus was a British Restaurant in nearby Belleview, NE. Omaha is also home of the headquarters of the Union Pacific Railroad. The town has much of railway interest. It is also Gerald Ford’s birthplace. My goodness: how did you "trip" over that gem?! |
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On Oct 30, 1:37*am, "Recliner" wrote:
"Nobody" wrote in message "E27002" wrote in message On Oct 27, 3:37 pm, "Chris Read" wrote: That sort of work for British companies is now normally done in Mumbai or Bangalore. *They're a lot cheaper than Edinburgh, Los Angeles, or Omaha. grin and OT: but if you're gonna write "Mumbai" for Bombay, please be consistent and use "Bengaluru" for Bangalore... Yes, I did think of that, but felt that the former had caught on a lot more than the latter. *The latter is also not as cheap as it used to be.. According to the Board of Control for Cricket in India, the Karnataka State Cricket Association play cricket at the M.Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bangalore. I think until the Indians start using Bengaluru there should be no compulsion on the rest of the world. John |
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Tom Barry wrote:
Martin Edwards wrote: grin and OT: but if you're gonna write "Mumbai" for Bombay, please be consistent and use "Bengaluru" for Bangalore... Or "Chennai" for "Madras". This could get complicated. I work with a bloke from Madras, and he's very annoyed about the whole Chennai thing, which he sees as a vain politician jumping on a bandwagon. According to him it makes about as much sense as renaming London, 'Kensington'. Tom Thanks for that. I am endlessly fascinated by the subcon. George Harrison was responsible. -- As through this world I've rambled, I've met plenty of funny men, Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen. Woody Guthrie |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:49:47 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
[It seems very unlikely they wouldn't carry at least Stilton and some English Cheddar, given how famous they are.] They are perhaps more likely to sell Canadian and/or Israeli Cheddar. ;-) |
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"E27002" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 1:49 pm, David Jackson wrote: The message from E27002 contains these words: http://www.jrfielding.com/live/views...StoryIndex=288 Thanks for the link. It's about time that USians had "proper" food available. The bloke who trims the remains of my hair has relatives in Transpondia, and he seems to spend his whole holiday over there in the kitchen, cooking enough real food to fill their freezer so that they'll be OK until his next visit. Fortunately World Market now stocks a number of useful British items. So I needn't forgo PG Tips, or Typhoo. I can make birds custard for my American apple pie. Branston Pickle is available to give my salads a slight UK touch. Walker Shortbread and McVities Biscuits Biscuits (now there is an ambiguous word) are occasional treats. When I first worked in the US in 1982 I would go crazy for a cup of real tea. Eventually I would have family members send it over. On a par with Earl's Court Aussies and Vegemite (axle grease to the average Yank). Managed to survive 10 years without it. Sainsbury's Yeast Extract was pretty darn close. :) DW downunder |
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"EE507" wrote in message ... On Oct 26, 9:17 pm, (Neil Williams) wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:09:06 -0700 (PDT), TheOneKEA wrote: There is also the fact that the WLL is still a good cross-London link between the former Southern Region and the former Western and London Midland (:P) Regions. Just because there's no XC link right now doesn't mean that a new service, serving Shepherd's Bush, won't be eventually restored. Even now, the link from MKC to Clapham Jn and beyond is *very* heavily used. While there would be an issue with making the LO service 8 cars, the Southern one could easily be made so given a few units, had the short-sighted decision to build a 4-car platform at Imperial Wharf not been made. The real issue is platforms 16 and 17 at CLJ. SDO can't be used with the sort of loadings these trains experience, but straightening and lengthening the platforms won't happen any time soon. That said, given that said service is mainly about linking the WCML to the SWML, it could I suppose be extended to 8 then not stop at Imperial Wharf. How long is the platform at Shepherd's Bush? 4! Same at West Brompton. I think the assumption has been made that CLJ 16 and 17 will never be sorted out, so why bother when LOROL will be a 4-car max railway forever more? I suppose Platform 17 at Clapham is also short, but if that was a problem it could terminate there and use 2 or a reinstated 1 instead. Or is 16 long enough, if a crossover was to be installed? Cross-Clapham traffic is heavy and interchange facilities on those platforms are grossly inadequate. If the infrastructure is ever modified to allow 8-car trains, it could then be sensible to run them south of East Croydon once again. In the short term I would prefer 2 tph of ECR-WFJ rather than 1 of ECR- MKC, although the benefits would be greater if VT bothered to stop more than 1 tph at WFJ. Sorry Old Chap, did ask that when you introduce a TLA into a post for the 1st that you spell it out. I can guess from context that ECR is East Croydon, and MKC is Milton Keynes Central. I think WFJ is Watford Junction, which would suit the context. Could you pls confirm. DW downunder |
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On Oct 30, 5:55*am, "DW downunder" noname wrote:
"E27002" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 1:49 pm, David Jackson wrote: The message from E27002 contains these words: http://www.jrfielding.com/live/views...StoryIndex=288 Thanks for the link. It's about time that USians had "proper" food available. The bloke who trims the remains of my hair has relatives in Transpondia, and he seems to spend his whole holiday over there in the kitchen, cooking enough real food to fill their freezer so that they'll be OK until his next visit. Fortunately World Market now stocks a number of useful British items. So I needn't forgo PG Tips, or Typhoo. *I can make birds custard for my American apple pie. *Branston Pickle is available to give my salads a slight UK touch. *Walker Shortbread and McVities Biscuits Biscuits (now there is an ambiguous word) are occasional treats. When I first worked in the US in 1982 I would go crazy for a cup of real tea. *Eventually I would have family members send it over. On a par with Earl's Court Aussies and Vegemite (axle grease to the average Yank). Managed to survive 10 years without it. Sainsbury's Yeast Extract was pretty darn close. :) Well I am surprised nobody in the Earl's Court area thought to import Vegemite in bulk. Just out of curiosity I will check if World Market carries it next time I am there. Nowadays when I have to spend an extended period in the UK I find myself wanting: A1 Sauce (Easy have some brung over), American Beef, and Texas Barbecue. As regards the latter two, the gratification is that much greater when I return to these US. There is a slight issue here in Reno, where I am most of the time these days. We do not have a good Indian restaurant. So that treat has to wait for my occasional trips to Anaheim. |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:06:22 +0800, "DW downunder" noname wrote:
Sorry Old Chap, did ask that when you introduce a TLA into a post for the 1st that you spell it out. I can guess from context that ECR is East Croydon, and MKC is Milton Keynes Central. I think WFJ is Watford Junction, which would suit the context. Could you pls confirm. Yep, all those are correct. If we could get the frequency up, a half-hourly Watford to Clapham shuttle would be more use than hourly through to Milton Keynes, so long as the connections worked with LM trains at the Watford end. But the danger is that an increase in frequency would cause a "sparks effect" which would just result in passenger growth which there isn't the capacity to handle. The ultimate solution is probably to reinstate platforms on the slow lines at Willesden and call all slow-line LM services[1] there for interchange purposes, then to withdraw the through service completely. [1] Ideally *all* LM services. But I'm not sure there's the capacity on the slows to switch LM services back before Euston to allow this. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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On Oct 30, 1:37*am, "Recliner" wrote:
"Nobody" wrote in message "E27002" wrote in message On Oct 27, 3:37 pm, "Chris Read" wrote: That sort of work for British companies is now normally done in Mumbai or Bangalore. *They're a lot cheaper than Edinburgh, Los Angeles, or Omaha. grin and OT: but if you're gonna write "Mumbai" for Bombay, please be consistent and use "Bengaluru" for Bangalore... Yes, I did think of that, but felt that the former had caught on a lot more than the latter. *The latter is also not as cheap as it used to be. According to the Board of Control for Cricket in India, the Karnataka State Cricket Association play cricket at the M.Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bangalore. I think until the Indians start using Bengaluru there should be no compulsion on the rest of the world. John chortle Egzacly my point. We Anglo-whatevers are being beaten over Our Noggins, being told to "correct" our geographical notions as the Newly Freed Poor Downtrodden try to exert Their Puffiness. Don't hear Bruxelles/Brussels... Kobenhavn/Copenhagen... Wien/Vienna... al-Kahira/Cairo... al-Damask/Damascus... bitching! How would one describe Buenos Aires... Rio de Janeiro... en Ingles? Fresh Airs and January River? The Summer Olympics of whenever should be fun, if we survive the nonsense of the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. Should you sense a touch of sporting cynicism, congratulations! Vive Pekin! (As even China Radio International from, er, Beijing, still refers to its hometown in French.) |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:49:47 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
[It seems very unlikely they wouldn't carry at least Stilton and some English Cheddar, given how famous they are.] They are perhaps more likely to sell Canadian and/or Israeli Cheddar. ;-) Don't laugh, but I saw in a newspaper somewhere recently that our Canadian Cheddar label is about to be attacked. A quick web search couldn't pull up any reference... |
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Nobody wrote: [snip] How would one describe Buenos Aires... Rio de Janeiro... en Ingles? For most of the 19th century the capital of the River Plate states was known to the English as Buenos Ayres. -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail |
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Nobody wrote:
grin and OT: but if you're gonna write "Mumbai" for Bombay, please be consistent and use "Bengaluru" for Bangalore... Yes, I did think of that, but felt that the former had caught on a lot more than the latter. The latter is also not as cheap as it used to be. According to the Board of Control for Cricket in India, the Karnataka State Cricket Association play cricket at the M.Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bangalore. I think until the Indians start using Bengaluru there should be no compulsion on the rest of the world. John chortle Egzacly my point. We Anglo-whatevers are being beaten over Our Noggins. Is that Noggin the Nog? -- As through this world I've rambled, I've met plenty of funny men, Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen. Woody Guthrie |
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rail wrote:
In message Nobody wrote: [snip] How would one describe Buenos Aires... Rio de Janeiro... en Ingles? For most of the 19th century the capital of the River Plate states was known to the English as Buenos Ayres. Mar del Plata -- As through this world I've rambled, I've met plenty of funny men, Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen. Woody Guthrie |
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DW downunder wrote:
"E27002" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 1:49 pm, David Jackson wrote: The message from E27002 contains these words: http://www.jrfielding.com/live/views...StoryIndex=288 Thanks for the link. It's about time that USians had "proper" food available. The bloke who trims the remains of my hair has relatives in Transpondia, and he seems to spend his whole holiday over there in the kitchen, cooking enough real food to fill their freezer so that they'll be OK until his next visit. Fortunately World Market now stocks a number of useful British items. So I needn't forgo PG Tips, or Typhoo. I can make birds custard for my American apple pie. Branston Pickle is available to give my salads a slight UK touch. Walker Shortbread and McVities Biscuits Biscuits (now there is an ambiguous word) are occasional treats. You can get Vegimite in the UK now too. -- As through this world I've rambled, I've met plenty of funny men, Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen. Woody Guthrie |
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On 30 Oct, 12:55, "DW downunder" noname wrote:
birds custard for my American apple pie I think I'd rather have Bird's Custard on my pie than "birds custard". |
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On 31 Oct, 08:54, Martin Edwards wrote:
You can get Vegimite in the UK now too. What's with the "now"? I've been buying it from Tesco for at least 10 years. Vegemite with an 'e' in the middle I mean. |
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On Oct 31, 10:06*pm, contrex wrote:
On 31 Oct, 08:54, Martin Edwards wrote: You can get Vegimite in the UK now too. What's with the "now"? I've been buying it from Tesco for at least 10 years. Vegemite with an 'e' in the middle I mean. I was able to buy Vegemite from my local Tesco in 1988. |
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"John Dennis" wrote in message ... On Oct 31, 10:06 pm, contrex wrote: On 31 Oct, 08:54, Martin Edwards wrote: You can get Vegimite in the UK now too. What's with the "now"? I've been buying it from Tesco for at least 10 years. Vegemite with an 'e' in the middle I mean. I was able to buy Vegemite from my local Tesco in 1988. Returned to Oz in 87 - they were a tad slow to respond to the market!! DW downunder |
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On 31 Oct, 00:55, (Neil Williams)
wrote: On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:06:22 +0800, "DW downunder" noname wrote: Sorry Old Chap, did ask that when you introduce a TLA into a post for the 1st that you spell it out. I can guess from context that ECR is East Croydon, and MKC is Milton Keynes Central. I think WFJ is Watford Junction, which would suit the context. Could you pls confirm. Yep, all those are correct. If we could get the frequency up, a half-hourly Watford to Clapham shuttle would be more use than hourly through to Milton Keynes, so long as the connections worked with LM trains at the Watford end. *But the danger is that an increase in frequency would cause a "sparks effect" which would just result in passenger growth which there isn't the capacity to handle. The ultimate solution is probably to reinstate platforms on the slow lines at Willesden and call all slow-line LM services[1] there for interchange purposes, then to withdraw the through service completely. [1] Ideally *all* LM services. *But I'm not sure there's the capacity on the slows to switch LM services back before Euston to allow this. I agree. That would be by far the best solution. Willesden, being a veritable industrial wasteland that it is, has ample space available for creative solutions. The most obvious to me being platform loops, either as simple through lines to allow trains to run to Euston fast from Watford (serving the express role vacated by VWC's desire not to serve Watford Junction), or as alternate platforms, enabling alternating use to maximise throughput. i.e. (apologies for the ASCII art! (fixed width intended)) a) #### /----\ -*------*- -*------*- \----/ #### or b) /----\ -* #### *- \----/ /----\ -* #### *- \----/ If during the course of building these platforms you took the opportunity to build/extend the LO platforms above them with direct lift and stair access (and maybe escalators if it's a major enough interchange ;)), then the interchange penalty would be greatly reduced. Even more so if you started some WLL services from Willesden as present, so the trains won't already be full, and odds are, sitting there waiting for you to board when you arrive. |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:31:36 -0700, Nobody wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:49:47 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: [It seems very unlikely they wouldn't carry at least Stilton and some English Cheddar, given how famous they are.] They are perhaps more likely to sell Canadian and/or Israeli Cheddar. ;-) Don't laugh, but I saw in a newspaper somewhere recently that our Canadian Cheddar label is about to be attacked. No surprise, really, as it all makes no sense. But neither did Danish, Dutch and Israeli cheddar, all of which I have bought over the years. The Israeli cheddar was in a cheese spread, but the manufacturer apparently also made hard cheddar cheese. It's all rather a long way from Somerset. But Somerset gets its own back by making "Brie". ;-) |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... years. The Israeli cheddar was in a cheese spread, but the manufacturer apparently also made hard cheddar cheese. and it is has no taste at all, I much prefer the original Richard |
West London Line - what recession?
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:42:29 -0000, "R J Cardy"
wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message .. . years. The Israeli cheddar was in a cheese spread, but the manufacturer apparently also made hard cheddar cheese. and it is has no taste at all, I much prefer the original But what is "the original"? If there was ever only one recipe, it has been well and truly lost. Very little now separates any kind of cheddar from a great many other hard cheeses from all over the world. Wherever it comes from, it is a almost always a mediocre and particularly undistinguished cheese. |
West London Line - what recession?
On Oct 31, 8:53*am, Martin Edwards wrote:
For most of the 19th century the capital of the River Plate states was known to the English as Buenos Ayres. Mar del Plata I'm not sure what you are saying here. AFAIK Mar del Plata was not a capital of anything. There was nothing there until 1874, and had no port until 1916. It may now be Argentinas' 7th largest city and exceeds half a million population, but in the 19th century it was nothing. Or are you answetring something further up thread, How would one describe Buenos Aires... Rio de Janeiro... en Ingles? Are you perhaps confusing things with Rio de la Plata ? Not only location but translation: rio is river, mar is sea. -- Nick |
West London Line - what recession?
"John Dennis" wrote in message ... On Oct 31, 10:06 pm, contrex wrote: On 31 Oct, 08:54, Martin Edwards wrote: You can get Vegimite in the UK now too. What's with the "now"? I've been buying it from Tesco for at least 10 years. Vegemite with an 'e' in the middle I mean. I was able to buy Vegemite from my local Tesco in 1988. Returned to Oz in 87 - they were a tad slow to respond to the market!! DW downunder sigh Canada's Labelling Police apparently are responsible for the disappearance of that Most Important Aussie treat from supermarket shelves over the last year or so. I have stumbled on a Indo-Fijian food store in the deep Vancouver suburbs that brings Vegemite in through a back door, but they've stopped importing the 454g jars and I'm left with grabbing 225g or in a pinch the tiny 115g jars whch last only a few days... |
West London Line - what recession?
On Oct 31, 4:27*am, Nobody wrote:
On Oct 30, 1:37*am, "Recliner" wrote: "Nobody" wrote in message m "E27002" wrote in message On Oct 27, 3:37 pm, "Chris Read" wrote: That sort of work for British companies is now normally done in Mumbai or Bangalore. *They're a lot cheaper than Edinburgh, Los Angeles, or Omaha. grin and OT: but if you're gonna write "Mumbai" for Bombay, please be consistent and use "Bengaluru" for Bangalore... Yes, I did think of that, but felt that the former had caught on a lot more than the latter. *The latter is also not as cheap as it used to be. According to the Board of Control for Cricket in India, the Karnataka State Cricket Association play cricket at the M.Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bangalore. *I think until the Indians start using Bengaluru there should be no compulsion on the rest of the world. John chortle Egzacly my point. We Anglo-whatevers are being beaten over Our Noggins, being told to "correct" our geographical notions as the Newly Freed Poor Downtrodden try to exert Their Puffiness. Don't hear Bruxelles/Brussels... Kobenhavn/Copenhagen... Wien/Vienna... al-Kahira/Cairo... al-Damask/Damascus... bitching! How would one describe Buenos Aires... Rio de Janeiro... en Ingles? Fresh Airs and January River? *The Summer Olympics of whenever should be fun, if we survive the nonsense of the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. Should you sense a touch of sporting cynicism, congratulations! Vive Pekin! *(As even China Radio International from, er, Beijing, still refers to its hometown in French.) Not quite sure why I'm bothering - but English is one of the most prevalent languages in India (and is one of India's official languages), so they have every right to choose what English names they use for their cities. It's an internal debate between local-nationalist and international- elitist politicians, not an external one: so Bombay, where I'm writing this from, was renamed for all local English-language purposes[*] when the local council was dominated by a nasty bunch of BNP-like anti- immigrant (from out-of-state, obviously) thugs called the Shiv Sena. As a foreigner, you can refer to it however you like - however, there's a fine line between "demonstrating your understanding of history and your contempt for bigots" and "appearing to be an ignorant prat", so I'd recommend using "Mumbai" unless you're aware of the political views of the person you're talking to. (quite why we indulge China, where English is neither official nor widely spoken, in telling us how to transliterate their place names, is less clear.) -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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