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Oxford Circus crossing
As a Balham resident, I'm still reeling that allegedly £1m was spent on this
crossing when we have had one outside Balham station for over four years! It is said to have cost £100k to create. The media has totally ignored the fact, despite e-mails and calls, with the exception of a tiny piece in Metro and a short letter in tonight's Standard. Seems they are scared of upsetting the Mayor. Some (balanced) views he http://www.localgov.co.uk/index.cfm?...etail&id=83381 Ian -- |
Oxford Circus crossing
Ian F. wrote:
As a Balham resident, I'm still reeling that allegedly £1m was spent on this crossing when we have had one outside Balham station for over four years! It is said to have cost £100k to create. The money was presumably spent on demolishing walls and moving kerb lines, lighting poles and camera poles, rather than on redoing the road surface. The media has totally ignored the fact, despite e-mails and calls, with the exception of a tiny piece in Metro and a short letter in tonight's Standard. Seems they are scared of upsetting the Mayor. I don't think Boris has been Mayor long enough to be responsible for the scheme, BICBW. Some (balanced) views he http://www.localgov.co.uk/index.cfm?...etail&id=83381 There's been one in Burnt Oak since approximately 2001, which might be the oldest one in London. Here's a 2004 discussion... http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....eef9d821b556c8 |
Oxford Circus crossing
On 3 Nov, 20:47, "Ian F." wrote:
As a Balham resident, I'm still reeling that allegedly £1m was spent on this crossing when we have had one outside Balham station for over four years! It is said to have cost £100k to create. The media has totally ignored the fact, despite e-mails and calls, with the exception of a tiny piece in Metro and a short letter in tonight's Standard. Seems they are scared of upsetting the Mayor. There is no need to have a cow. The Balham crossing is probably as scary and useless as the Oxford Circus one. They are both just cosmetic. The diagonal crossings are dangerous and totally unnecessary. |
Oxford Circus crossing
"Offramp" wrote in message
... On 3 Nov, 20:47, "Ian F." wrote: As a Balham resident, I'm still reeling that allegedly £1m was spent on this crossing when we have had one outside Balham station for over four years! It is said to have cost £100k to create. The media has totally ignored the fact, despite e-mails and calls, with the exception of a tiny piece in Metro and a short letter in tonight's Standard. Seems they are scared of upsetting the Mayor. There is no need to have a cow. The Balham crossing is probably as scary and useless as the Oxford Circus one. They are both just cosmetic. The diagonal crossings are dangerous and totally unnecessary. =============== Well I went to try it out this evening and found the whole thing shut down, fences all round the crossing, and Oxo Station shut; all for someone to turn on a few lightbulbs. Bah, humbug. MaxB |
Oxford Circus crossing
On 3 Nov, 22:35, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:32:47 -0800 (PST), Offramp wrote: The diagonal crossings are dangerous and totally unnecessary. Why? [genuine question btw] -- Paul C I can't see why either. There would be three clear phases. I couldn't make any sense of the old phasing at Oxford Circus (and never will now), but I generally just crossed when there seemed to be a gap, because I couldn't work out what was going on. |
Oxford Circus crossing
"Ian F." wrote in
: As a Balham resident, I'm still reeling that allegedly £1m was spent on this crossing when we have had one outside Balham station for over four years! It is said to have cost £100k to create. The media has totally ignored the fact, despite e-mails and calls, with the exception of a tiny piece in Metro and a short letter in tonight's Standard. Seems they are scared of upsetting the Mayor. Some (balanced) views he http://www.localgov.co.uk/index.cfm?...etail&id=83381 Ian The BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8337341.stm) are quoting £5 million, as does the localgov link. I've no idea how you would go about spending £5 million on removing some railings and installing coloured paving - that can't sound like value for money to anybody, even the contractor who installed it! Also I do hope it doesn't cost £5 million to remove because, having seen it for the first time last week, it doesn't look safe to me (it is too easy for pedestrians to get too close to the buses, even if they are only going at walking pace, and remember this is currently a junction where bendi- buses turn). David |
Oxford Circus crossing
On 2009-11-03, Offramp wrote:
On 3 Nov, 20:47, "Ian F." wrote: As a Balham resident, I'm still reeling that allegedly £1m was spent on this crossing when we have had one outside Balham station for over four years! It is said to have cost £100k to create. The media has totally ignored the fact, despite e-mails and calls, with the exception of a tiny piece in Metro and a short letter in tonight's Standard. Seems they are scared of upsetting the Mayor. There is no need to have a cow. The Balham crossing is probably as scary and useless as the Oxford Circus one. They are both just cosmetic. The diagonal crossings are dangerous and totally unnecessary. I can remember when I was about 12 and diagonal crossings were introduced at a couple of city-centre intersections. They were called "scramble" crossings, and I think they are still there - 48 years later! There are actually quite a lot scattered around the world. The idea is that they are good for places with high pedestrian traffic. (The city in question was Brisbane, in Australia). E. |
Oxford Circus crossing
David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote on 03 November 2009 23:09:39 ...
having seen it for the first time last week, it doesn't look safe to me (it is too easy for pedestrians to get too close to the buses, even if they are only going at walking pace, and remember this is currently a junction where bendi-buses turn). Given that we don't have kerb-edge doors to protect passengers on the streets of London, how is that different from any other light-controlled crossing in London? Since all the traffic now stops for the pedestrian phase, it should be safer than before. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
Oxford Circus crossing
Richard J. wrote:
David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote on 03 November 2009 23:09:39 ... having seen it for the first time last week, it doesn't look safe to me (it is too easy for pedestrians to get too close to the buses, even if they are only going at walking pace, and remember this is currently a junction where bendi-buses turn). Given that we don't have kerb-edge doors to protect passengers on the streets of London, how is that different from any other light-controlled crossing in London? Since all the traffic now stops for the pedestrian phase, it should be safer than before. In the Oxford Street area, pedestrians do not accept the idea that some phases are not for them. |
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