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On Nov 11, 9:04*am, Mr Mappy wrote:
Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Mr Mappy

Exellent. I expecially like the London area. This cannot have been
easy.

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On 11 Nov, 18:02, E27002 wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:04*am, Mr Mappy wrote:

Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Mr Mappy

Exellent. *I expecially like the London area. *This cannot have been
easy.

- The curve from Crystal Palace to Norwood Junction is missing.
- There's zero prospect of the future London Overground calling at
Brixton.
- King George V to Woolwich Arsenal DLR is missing.
- "Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich" (and Custom House for Excel)
- "Bromley-by-Bow"
- "Finchley Road and Frognal"
- Mitcham Junction should be shown as a proper interchange with the
tram
- c2c trains do not (and cannot) call at Shadwell
- Chiswick Park is on the wrong branch
- Waterloo East interchanges with Southwark
- Are you ignoring Heathrow Connect?
- The new 3 new DLR stations between Stratford and Canning Town are
missing

U

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E27002
wibbled on Wednesday 11 November 2009 18:02

On Nov 11, 9:04*am, Mr Mappy wrote:
Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Mr Mappy

Exellent. I expecially like the London area. This cannot have been
easy.

Wow...

Really good.

I don't know if it counts, but there is a spur line from London Charing
Cross to London Cannon Street direct.

I think there may be one service in the middle of the night? (confirmation?)

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"Tim W" wrote

I don't know if it counts, but there is a spur line from London Charing
Cross to London Cannon Street direct.

I think there may be one service in the middle of the night?
(confirmation?)

No, hasn't been a regular service for years[1]. Many years ago the only
timetabled train to use it was the 0053 Charing Cross to Dartford via Cannon
Street (though if you go back to SE&CR days a high proportion of Charing
Cross trains went via Cannon Street). Even further back there was a shuttle
service between Charing Cross and Cannon Street, but this lost its
usefulness when the Metropolitan District railway reached the City. The
shuttle service also lost some of its business when an intermediate station
(Blackfriars Road, later superseded by Waterloo Junction) was opened. Before
then certain 'ladies' used a First Class compartment with the blinds down
for their 'business'.

[1] still gets used occasionally for a Charing Cross - Cannon Street shuttle
service at weekends, if the direct route from Charing Cross to London Bridge
is blocked by engineering work. However, the Thameslink plans show the
Cannon Street connection at Metropolian Junction being severed.

Peter

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"E27002" wrote in message
...
On Nov 11, 9:04 am, Mr Mappy wrote:
Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Mr Mappy

Exellent. I expecially like the London area. This cannot have been
easy.

Wow, congratulations a lot of work! ...but Mitchum as in Mitchum Eastfields
and Mitchum Junction (west of Croydon) should be spelt Mitcham.

Peter

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, E27002 wrote:

On Nov 11, 9:04*am, Mr Mappy wrote:
Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Exellent. I expecially like the London area. This cannot have been
easy.

Indeed. It looks utterly hideous, though - all weird mashing discordant
angles. Bleugh.

I prefer the elegant clarity of the New Adlestrop Rail Atlas:

http://www.systemed.net/atlas/

Although it can't compete for detail around London.

tom

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On 11 Nov, 21:52, "Peter Andrews"
wrote:
"E27002" wrote in message

...
On Nov 11, 9:04 am, Mr Mappy wrote:

Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Mr Mappy

Exellent. *I expecially like the London area. *This cannot have been
easy.

Wow, congratulations a lot of work! *...but Mitchum as in Mitchum Eastfields
and Mitchum Junction (west of Croydon) should be spelt Mitcham.


Also it should be Herne Hill (not Hearne), and Finchley Road & Frognal
(not Frognall).

But forget about from little nitpicks like this. That is a great
map. It must've taken you ages. Brilliant work.

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Absolutely brilliant!!
It's missing Wandsworth Common though :)

phil

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Mr Thant wrote on 11 November
2009 22:09:38 ...
On 11 Nov, 18:02, E27002 wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:04 am, Mr Mappy wrote:

Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:
http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf
All comments appreciated!
Mr Mappy
Exellent. I expecially like the London area. This cannot have been
easy.

- The curve from Crystal Palace to Norwood Junction is missing.
- There's zero prospect of the future London Overground calling at
Brixton.
- King George V to Woolwich Arsenal DLR is missing.
- "Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich" (and Custom House for Excel)
- "Bromley-by-Bow"
- "Finchley Road and Frognal"
- Mitcham Junction should be shown as a proper interchange with the
tram
- c2c trains do not (and cannot) call at Shadwell
- Chiswick Park is on the wrong branch
- Waterloo East interchanges with Southwark
- Are you ignoring Heathrow Connect?
- The new 3 new DLR stations between Stratford and Canning Town are
missing

Also:
- White City should be Central Line only, not also on Hammersmith &
City/Circle
- Ladbroke Road, not Ladbrook Road
- The Thames should go between St Margarets and Richmond, not between
Twickenham and St Margarets
- Bethnal Green, not Bethnel Green (twice)

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(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

- Ladbroke Road, not Ladbrook Road

Ladbroke Grove even!

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On Nov 11, 10:21*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
I prefer the elegant clarity of the New Adlestrop Rail Atlas:
http://www.systemed.net/atlas/

Thanks! :) Coincidentally I've been doing a bunch of work on the New
Adlestrop this evening.

I'm hoping to have a release with coverage extending as far as an east-
west line starting at Leyland, and ending at the Humber, pretty soon
now. I might then start a separate sheet north of there, as the
Illustrator file is getting _really_ slow to edit...

Richard

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Richard Fairhurst wrote (apparently) in uk.railway on Thu 12 Nov
2009 00:55:55:

On Nov 11, 10:21*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
I prefer the elegant clarity of the New Adlestrop Rail Atlas:
http://www.systemed.net/atlas/

Thanks! :) Coincidentally I've been doing a bunch of work on the
New Adlestrop this evening.

I'm hoping to have a release with coverage extending as far as an
east- west line starting at Leyland, and ending at the Humber,
pretty soon now. I might then start a separate sheet north of
there, as the Illustrator file is getting _really_ slow to
edit...

Richard

Guess that's not going to have anything west of Marston Moor on the
Harrogate line but will continue to keep an eye on it, as I have been
doing for a couple of years. It's extremely useful for the areas
covered so far though.

Thanks!
--
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Mr Guest wrote:
Guess that's not going to have anything west of Marston Moor on the
Harrogate line but will continue to keep an eye on it, as I have been
doing for a couple of years. It's extremely useful for the areas
covered so far though.

Once I'm clear of the Pennines it'll be plain sailing up to the
Edinburgh-Glasgow belt. It's the really dense areas that take the time
- both in terms of research and cartography. Dewsbury has not been a
bunch of fun and I'm not looking forward to Leeds in the next-but-one
release...

Ricard

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:22 -0000, "Peter Andrews"
wrote:

Wow, congratulations a lot of work!


Agreed, and the idea of releasing a draft copy for comment - and
getting it very thoroughly proof checked for free in the process -
shows an awful lot of imagination.

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On Nov 12, 12:44*pm, Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:22 -0000, "Peter Andrews"

wrote:

Wow, congratulations a lot of work!

Agreed, and the idea of releasing a draft copy for comment - and
getting it very thoroughly proof checked for free in the process -
shows an awful lot of imagination.

And there is one train a day direct from Woking to Staines round the
north to west curve at Byfleet/Weybridge

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Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:22 -0000, "Peter Andrews"
wrote:

Wow, congratulations a lot of work!


Agreed, and the idea of releasing a draft copy for comment - and
getting it very thoroughly proof checked for free in the process -
shows an awful lot of imagination.

Unless he's planning to sell it, why shouldn't he do that?

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:22:38 -0000, "Basil Jet"
wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:22 -0000, "Peter Andrews"
wrote:

Wow, congratulations a lot of work!


Agreed, and the idea of releasing a draft copy for comment - and
getting it very thoroughly proof checked for free in the process -
shows an awful lot of imagination.

Unless he's planning to sell it, why shouldn't he do that?


Where did I suggest that he shouldn't?

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Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:22:38 -0000, "Basil Jet"
wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:22 -0000, "Peter Andrews"
wrote:

Wow, congratulations a lot of work!


Agreed, and the idea of releasing a draft copy for comment - and
getting it very thoroughly proof checked for free in the process -
shows an awful lot of imagination.

Unless he's planning to sell it, why shouldn't he do that?

Where did I suggest that he shouldn't?

Where did I suggest that you suggested that he shouldn't?

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:47:12 -0800 (PST), JohnnPam wrote:

And there is one train a day direct from Woking to Staines round the
north to west curve at Byfleet/Weybridge

This service now runs all day on Sundays.

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Basil Jet wrote on 12 November
2009 14:40:28 ...
Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:22:38 -0000, "Basil Jet"
wrote:
Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:22 -0000, "Peter Andrews"
wrote:

Wow, congratulations a lot of work!

Agreed, and the idea of releasing a draft copy for comment - and
getting it very thoroughly proof checked for free in the process -
shows an awful lot of imagination.

Unless he's planning to sell it, why shouldn't he do that?

Where did I suggest that he shouldn't?

Where did I suggest that you suggested that he shouldn't?

It's implied by asking "why shouldn't he do that?". And even if he *is*
planning to sell it, what's wrong with getting it proof-checked for
free? Are you suggesting he would then be crossing some sort of ethical
boundary? Good luck to him, I say.

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On 11 Nov, 22:33, zzzz wrote:
Absolutely brilliant!!
It's missing Wandsworth Common though :)

phil

As is Queenstown Road Battersea. And the "Wandsworth Road" west of
Clapham Junction should be "Wandsworth Town".

Drayton Park station is also missing.

U

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JohnnPam wrote

And there is one train a day direct from Woking to Staines round the
north to west curve at Byfleet/Weybridge

One train every hour in each direction on Sundays. Passangers from
Weybridge to Staines on Sundays have to take the Woking train to
Byfleet & New Haw and change there.


--
Mike D

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Richard Fairhurst wrote (apparently) in uk.railway on Thu 12 Nov
2009 09:49:39:

Mr Guest wrote:
Guess that's not going to have anything west of Marston Moor on
the Harrogate line but will continue to keep an eye on it, as I
have been doing for a couple of years. It's extremely useful for
the areas covered so far though.

Once I'm clear of the Pennines it'll be plain sailing up to the
Edinburgh-Glasgow belt. It's the really dense areas that take the
time - both in terms of research and cartography. Dewsbury has
not been a bunch of fun and I'm not looking forward to Leeds in
the next-but-one release...

Ricard

Thanks Richard, look forward to the future releases as and when you
are able to work on them. I suspect Leeds, Bradford, Dewsbury,
Huddersfield, Halifax and all round those areas are a bit difficult to
sort out quickly. Good luck with it.
--
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E27002 wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:04 am, Mr Mappy wrote:
Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Mr Mappy


It's missing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockpo...alybridge_Line

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E27002 wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:04 am, Mr Mappy wrote:
Now has the whole of the London conurbation including London
Underground. See:

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reso...0AS%20v1.5.pdf

All comments appreciated!

Mr Mappy

Exellent. I expecially like the London area. This cannot have been
easy.

One wonders what the forthcoming "TrackAtlas" is going to make of the
London spaghetti:
http://www.trackmaps.co.uk/availablesoon.htm

JP

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Johannes Patruus wrote:

One wonders what the forthcoming "TrackAtlas" is going to make of the
London spaghetti:
http://www.trackmaps.co.uk/availablesoon.htm

Since Quail already publish a map of the Underground, I don't see the
problem. Trying to portray the Underground and NR on the same map might be
tricky, especially between Kings Cross and Finsbury Park.

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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Basil Jet wrote:

Johannes Patruus wrote:

One wonders what the forthcoming "TrackAtlas" is going to make of the
London spaghetti:
http://www.trackmaps.co.uk/availablesoon.htm

Since Quail already publish a map of the Underground, I don't see the
problem.

Isn't this new one claiming to be geographical, whereas Quail is very much
topological?

tom

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On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray,
Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right
answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of
confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. -- Charles Babbage

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Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Basil Jet wrote:

Johannes Patruus wrote:

One wonders what the forthcoming "TrackAtlas" is going to make of
the London spaghetti:
http://www.trackmaps.co.uk/availablesoon.htm

Since Quail already publish a map of the Underground, I don't see the
problem.

Isn't this new one claiming to be geographical, whereas Quail is very
much topological?

The map I'm thinking of was geographical, but IIRC the scale changes from
Central London to the suburbs.

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