On 16 Nov, 17:14, Tom Barry wrote:

I'm frankly bemused by all this, but at present I'll look to use PAYG on
NR for journeys not including Z1, where it makes sense (I don't usually
have a travelcard, so OEP idiocies don't apply).

Tom

I've looked at the preliminary fares tables which are in the "Mayoral
Document" and it seems that Off Peak travel from Zones 4/3/2 to Zone 1
on NR is going to be cheaper than the equivalent parallel journey if
it were undertaken on TFL.

e.g Stratford (Zone 3) - Liverpool Street (Zone1)

PAYG Off Peak Single NR : £2.00
PAYG Off Peak Single TFL: £2.40


So it will be cheaper to travel on National Rail, a fact that would
surprise a lot of the average punters who, unless explicitly told,
will remain blissfully unaware !

Uncle-C wrote:
On 16 Nov, 17:14, Tom Barry wrote:

I'm frankly bemused by all this, but at present I'll look to use
PAYG on NR for journeys not including Z1, where it makes sense (I
don't usually have a travelcard, so OEP idiocies don't apply).

Tom

I've looked at the preliminary fares tables which are in the "Mayoral
Document" and it seems that Off Peak travel from Zones 4/3/2 to Zone 1
on NR is going to be cheaper than the equivalent parallel journey if
it were undertaken on TFL.

e.g Stratford (Zone 3) - Liverpool Street (Zone1)

PAYG Off Peak Single NR : £2.00
PAYG Off Peak Single TFL: £2.40

So it will be cheaper to travel on National Rail, a fact that would
surprise a lot of the average punters who, unless explicitly told,
will remain blissfully unaware !

Only if you assume that the long standing (ie well before PAYG on NR was
thought of) dual availability of LU fares on that route will definitely be
cancelled though...

That hasn't been explicitly clarified anywhere, AFAICT...

What about a journey such as West Brompton - Wimbledon with PAYG. They won't
be able to tell whether you used LU or NR as far as I can tell...

Paul S

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:53:14 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

e.g Stratford (Zone 3) - Liverpool Street (Zone1)

PAYG Off Peak Single NR : £2.00
PAYG Off Peak Single TFL: £2.40

So it will be cheaper to travel on National Rail, a fact that would
surprise a lot of the average punters who, unless explicitly told,
will remain blissfully unaware !

Only if you assume that the long standing (ie well before PAYG on NR was
thought of) dual availability of LU fares on that route will definitely be
cancelled though...

The fact that LU fares are valid on NR between those stations doesn't
prevent NR fares also being valid...

Moreover, interavailability works both ways - so the cheaper NR fare
should be valid on LU between those stations.

Whether they will actually allow you to use that fare (and whether
they can legally prevent you from doing so) is another question...

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(Uncle-C) wrote:

On 16 Nov, 17:14, Tom Barry wrote:

I'm frankly bemused by all this, but at present I'll look to use PAYG
on NR for journeys not including Z1, where it makes sense (I don't
usually have a travelcard, so OEP idiocies don't apply).

I've looked at the preliminary fares tables which are in the "Mayoral
Document" and it seems that Off Peak travel from Zones 4/3/2 to Zone 1
on NR is going to be cheaper than the equivalent parallel journey if
it were undertaken on TFL.

e.g Stratford (Zone 3) - Liverpool Street (Zone1)

PAYG Off Peak Single NR : £2.00
PAYG Off Peak Single TFL: £2.40


So it will be cheaper to travel on National Rail, a fact that would
surprise a lot of the average punters who, unless explicitly told,
will remain blissfully unaware !

I'd settle for fares to Putney not being at a premium over fares to East
Putney. They are the same if my amount of London travelling is enough to
justify a Day Travelcard from Cambridge but not otherwise, including when,
like tonight, I'm staying in Putney. With the new FCC fares I expect that
Day Travelcards from Cambridge will become even less likely to be
justified.

Although there was a national announcement about NR fares today it didn't
seem to have reached the FCC web site.

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Colin Rosenstiel