In message , at
10:58:07 on Mon, 9 Apr 2012, J Lynch
remarked:
I seem to recall that when the Victoria line was opened in 1969 some
form of the "new" gates were used at the Clapham transport museum to gain
entrance. However I am not sure that these were the full monty - possibly a
simplified mock up.

Somewhere I think I've got one of the tickets they used to sell. And you
are right about the mechanism - in practice all it would need to do is
accept a correctly-sized bit of card.

Either there, or maybe in Covent Garden later, they had a cutaway model
of one of the Victoria Line ticket readers, showing how it flipped the
ticket internally so it could be read properly, whichever orientation it
was presented by the passenger.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

Either there, or maybe in Covent Garden later, they had a cutaway
model of one of the Victoria Line ticket readers, showing how it
flipped the ticket internally so it could be read properly, whichever
orientation it was presented by the passenger.

Whereas nowadays the data density on the card should be more than enough to
make it readable in any orientation.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Plus perhaps competition issues. After all, the LT Museum is a
charity separate from TfL.

When did that happen? I thought it was owned by LT then TfL.

Yes and no. The museum was set up as a separate charitable company and
assets transferred in , I think, 2008*. But the company is wholly owned
by TfL's trading company.

*checks on the wotsit: seems so from eg
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...tructuring.pdf
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

In message , at 06:54:30
on Mon, 9 Apr 2012, remarked:
Either there, or maybe in Covent Garden later, they had a cutaway
model of one of the Victoria Line ticket readers, showing how it
flipped the ticket internally so it could be read properly, whichever
orientation it was presented by the passenger.

Whereas nowadays the data density on the card should be more than enough to
make it readable in any orientation.

More to do with the cost (in those days) of having read heads both sides
of the ticket path and enough computer power to decode a ticket going
through backwards.
--
Roland Perry

On 08/04/2012 21:52, d wrote:
Took a relative to the LT museum in covent garden on the w/e. They looked
a bit bemused when I asked why couldn't I pay using my Oyster card. Given
TfL seem to want to promote Oyster as electronic cash wouldn't this be
a logical place to start? They could even have proper station gates at the
entrance to let oyster holders through so they don't have to queue and make
the gates part of the exhibits at the same time. An opportunity missed I
think.

At one point you certainly *could* pay for admission to the LT Museum
using Oyster...not that I ever made use of the facility, being a member
of the Friends. Seems to have stopped with the last big redisplay project.

Cheers,

Barry

In message , at 11:54:54 on Mon, 9 Apr
2012, Roland Perry remarked:
I seem to recall that when the Victoria line was opened in 1969 some
form of the "new" gates were used at the Clapham transport museum to gain
entrance. However I am not sure that these were the full monty - possibly a
simplified mock up.

Somewhere I think I've got one of the tickets they used to sell. And
you are right about the mechanism - in practice all it would need to do
is accept a correctly-sized bit of card.

Either there, or maybe in Covent Garden later, they had a cutaway model
of one of the Victoria Line ticket readers, showing how it flipped the
ticket internally so it could be read properly, whichever orientation
it was presented by the passenger.

I was conflating a few things there, and now I've found the tickets.

Classic cardboard ones for the Clapham museum (not sure why the
different colours, and what does "Clapham Cl" stand for?)

And a special exhibition at the Science Museum, where you were given an
"Underground Ticket of the Future" (with magnetic stripe covering the
whole of the rear side) which you could put through the mock-up gates I
mentioned above.

http://yfrog.com/hws5gfj
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 11:54:54 on Mon, 9 Apr 2012,
Roland Perry remarked:
I seem to recall that when the Victoria line was opened in 1969 some
form of the "new" gates were used at the Clapham transport museum to gain
entrance. However I am not sure that these were the full monty - possibly
a
simplified mock up.

Somewhere I think I've got one of the tickets they used to sell. And you
are right about the mechanism - in practice all it would need to do is
accept a correctly-sized bit of card.

Either there, or maybe in Covent Garden later, they had a cutaway model of
one of the Victoria Line ticket readers, showing how it flipped the ticket
internally so it could be read properly, whichever orientation it was
presented by the passenger.

I was conflating a few things there, and now I've found the tickets.

Classic cardboard ones for the Clapham museum (not sure why the different
colours, and what does "Clapham Cl" stand for?)

And a special exhibition at the Science Museum, where you were given an
"Underground Ticket of the Future" (with magnetic stripe covering the
whole of the rear side) which you could put through the mock-up gates I
mentioned above.

You know you're getting old when the "predicted" future has come .... and
gone again

tim