On 2016\01\21 09:29, d wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:29:45 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:

Why don't you just google for the answers you got the last half dozen
times you asked that.

Why don't you butt out of a thread you have nothing to add to?

Why don't you butt out of a newsgroup you have nothing to add to?

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 14:29:27 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\01\21 09:29, d wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:29:45 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:

Why don't you just google for the answers you got the last half dozen
times you asked that.

Why don't you butt out of a thread you have nothing to add to?

Why don't you butt out of a newsgroup you have nothing to add to?

Unlike you with your erudite contributions you mean? If you actually say
something interesting one day we'll be able to hear the collective gasps
echoing around the city.

--
Spud

In message , at 17:06:50 on Thu, 21 Jan
2016, Steve Fitzgerald ] remarked:

but most people agree that train drivers are overpaid for their four
day week.

If only!

Which bit? The overpaid (compared to average wages then it could be
argued yes) or the 4 day week? If the latter:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/trans...d-500-and-four
-day-work-week-in-bid-to-avert-strikes-over-night-tube-a3161856.html

The 4 day week.

There has never been a 4 day week on LU unless you work part time.

My original remark was about National Rail.

A 5 day 36 hour week currently,

7hrs a day. Wow!

and the offer is a 4 day 36 hour week.

--
Roland Perry

In article , d () wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 14:29:27 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\01\21 09:29, d wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:29:45 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:

Why don't you just google for the answers you got the last half dozen
times you asked that.

Why don't you butt out of a thread you have nothing to add to?

Why don't you butt out of a newsgroup you have nothing to add to?

Unlike you with your erudite contributions you mean? If you actually say
something interesting one day we'll be able to hear the collective gasps
echoing around the city.

Children! Stop it and go to your rooms!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote:
In message , Roland Perry
writes

The 4 day week.

There has never been a 4 day week on LU unless you work part time.

My original remark was about National Rail.

A 5 day 36 hour week currently,

7hrs a day. Wow!

7 hours 12 mins actually but that was not the point.

and the offer is a 4 day 36 hour week.

So moving to 9 hour days with all the potential fatigue issues that
involves...

Presumably there are multiple breaks and rest periods during the shift?

On 21/01/2016 21:48, Recliner wrote:
Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote:
In message , Roland Perry
writes

The 4 day week.

There has never been a 4 day week on LU unless you work part time.

My original remark was about National Rail.

A 5 day 36 hour week currently,

7hrs a day. Wow!

7 hours 12 mins actually but that was not the point.

and the offer is a 4 day 36 hour week.

So moving to 9 hour days with all the potential fatigue issues that
involves...

Presumably there are multiple breaks and rest periods during the shift?

According to some here, there are breaks about every 2 minutes once the
button has been pushed to go to the next station...

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 20:04:56 on Wed, 20 Jan
2016, tim..... remarked:

try working as a junior doctor for 70 hours a week making life and death
decisions on possibly an hourly basis

Not to mention the nine years training, and having to be "AAA" at A-
level material.

I don't think that's a "have to", it's just a convenient filter. IME
there's no equivalent academic expectation in many other countries for
"entry level" doctors.

Entry to medical training in the UK is highly competitive and greatly
(I've seen as much as 10x) oversubscribed.

I know

that's why they *can* use AAA as a filter and still get to select on other
criteria

All you've done is confirm my statement


snip the rest as it added nothing at all of relevance to my comment

tim

wrote in message ...
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:04:56 -0000
"tim....." wrote:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 11:18:34 on Wed, 20 Jan
2016, d remarked:

try working as a junior doctor for 70 hours a week making life and death
decisions on possibly an hourly basis

Not to mention the nine years training, and having to be "AAA" at
A-level
material.

I don't think that's a "have to", it's just a convenient filter. IME
there's no equivalent academic expectation in many other countries for
"entry level" doctors.

If you're talking some 3rd world dump

Nope, some EU countries

then no doubt, but one would hope most
if not all western nations do initial selection on candidates based on
intellectual ability.

On appropriate aptitude certainly, but being a doctor out in the real world
doesn't require many of the skills that "passing exams" test.

tim

"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
...
In message , Roland Perry
writes

The 4 day week.

There has never been a 4 day week on LU unless you work part time.

My original remark was about National Rail.

A 5 day 36 hour week currently,

7hrs a day. Wow!

7 hours 12 mins actually but that was not the point.

and the offer is a 4 day 36 hour week.

So moving to 9 hour days with all the potential fatigue issues that
involves...

In that case the union shouldn't be asking for it, should they?

If what the union really want is a 4 day 30 hour week they they should say
so (and make sure that they are wearing their tin hats when the do - because
they would certainly take a thrashing from the public if they did!)

tim


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Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

I'm old enough to remember the good, old days when 40 hours
a week was regarded as more than enough and the general
aspiration was to aim for about 35 hours a week.

It shows how far our country has deteriorated that a 36 hour
week is seen by some as a pampered holiday existence.