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Hi everyone.

I've been reading the latest edition of London's Underground. Having
known nothing of the capital's tube system, it has been a very good
read. One thing puzzles me though - on an old map in the book there is
marked Trafalgar Square station, I think, on the Bakerloo. On modern
maps, this station no longer exists. Strangely, in an appendix listing
service dates of disused/abandoned stations, it isn't mentioned. I may
be mistaken, but in the mid-60's, I vaguely remember my parents taking
me to visit Trafalgar Square and then getting the tube from here home.
Any information to satisfy my curiosity would be most welcome.

Thanks,
Simon.

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simon wrote:
Hi everyone.

I've been reading the latest edition of London's Underground. Having
known nothing of the capital's tube system, it has been a very good
read. One thing puzzles me though - on an old map in the book there is
marked Trafalgar Square station, I think, on the Bakerloo. On modern
maps, this station no longer exists. Strangely, in an appendix listing
service dates of disused/abandoned stations, it isn't mentioned. I may
be mistaken, but in the mid-60's, I vaguely remember my parents taking
me to visit Trafalgar Square and then getting the tube from here home.
Any information to satisfy my curiosity would be most welcome.

Thanks,
Simon.


When the Jubilee Line was built in the 70's, Trafalgar Sq, on the Bakerloo,
and Strand, on the Northern, were merged into one Station, Charing Cross,
which also had the then terminus of the Jubilee. By then, the previous
Charing X, on District, Circle, Northern & Bakerloo had been renamed
Embankment.

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Hi everyone.

I've been reading the latest edition of London's Underground. Having
known nothing of the capital's tube system, it has been a very good
read. One thing puzzles me though - on an old map in the book there is
marked Trafalgar Square station, I think, on the Bakerloo. On modern
maps, this station no longer exists. Strangely, in an appendix listing
service dates of disused/abandoned stations, it isn't mentioned. I may
be mistaken, but in the mid-60's, I vaguely remember my parents taking
me to visit Trafalgar Square and then getting the tube from here home.
Any information to satisfy my curiosity would be most welcome.

Thanks,
Simon.


What is now called Charing Cross on the Bakerloo used to be called Trafalgar
Square.


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(simon) wrote:

Hi everyone.

I've been reading the latest edition of London's Underground. Having
known nothing of the capital's tube system, it has been a very good
read. One thing puzzles me though - on an old map in the book there is
marked Trafalgar Square station, I think, on the Bakerloo. On modern
maps, this station no longer exists. Strangely, in an appendix listing
service dates of disused/abandoned stations, it isn't mentioned. I may
be mistaken, but in the mid-60's, I vaguely remember my parents taking
me to visit Trafalgar Square and then getting the tube from here home.
Any information to satisfy my curiosity would be most welcome.

Thanks,
Simon.


The platforms are still in the same place, but when the Jubilee Line was
built there was a new booking hall built at Charing Cross. This served the
new Jubilee Line station, the Bakerloo Line Trafalgar Square station and
the Northern Line Strand station (which had been closed for a few years).

The layout is such that when going down from the Charing Cross booking
hall, the Northern Line is one end, the Jubilee Line is in the middle and
the Bakerloo Line is at the other end. This effectively gave a link
between the Northern Line and the Bakerloo Line (albeit a very long walk!)
whereas in the past should anybody have wanted to go from the Bakerloo
Line to the Northern Line they would have had to that at what is now
Embankment.

When I've been round the Trafalgar Sq. area, I've always walked past St
Martin in the Fields and gone to the Charing Cross station via the
pedestrian walkway under the Strand. As far as I know, there is no
physical link from Trafalgar Square itself to the new Charing Cross
booking hall, but I may be wrong.

The station naming itself got a bit confusing due to the station that is
now Embankment having its name changed at different times over the years.
In 1973, for example, it was named Charing Cross and served the
District/Circle Northern and Bakerloo Lines as it does today. The Northern
line also stopped at the actual Charing Cross station, but the station was
called Strand.

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Thanks for the quick response everyone - it's certainly answered my
question.

Simon.


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Hi everyone.

I've been reading the latest edition of London's Underground. Having
known nothing of the capital's tube system, it has been a very good
read. One thing puzzles me though - on an old map in the book there is
marked Trafalgar Square station, I think, on the Bakerloo. On modern
maps, this station no longer exists. Strangely, in an appendix listing
service dates of disused/abandoned stations, it isn't mentioned. I may
be mistaken, but in the mid-60's, I vaguely remember my parents taking
me to visit Trafalgar Square and then getting the tube from here home.
Any information to satisfy my curiosity would be most welcome.



Hmm... Troll Alert?

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In article , Barry Salter
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Apart from via the platforms, the two Booking Halls (and, indeed, the
stations) are not linked.


Nitpick: the connecting passage is at the bottom of the upper flight of
escalators and doesn't require you to go to the platforms.

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 at 08:32:12, simon
wrote:

Hi everyone.

I've been reading the latest edition of London's Underground. Having
known nothing of the capital's tube system, it has been a very good
read. One thing puzzles me though - on an old map in the book there is
marked Trafalgar Square station, I think, on the Bakerloo. On modern
maps, this station no longer exists. Strangely, in an appendix listing
service dates of disused/abandoned stations, it isn't mentioned. I may
be mistaken, but in the mid-60's, I vaguely remember my parents taking
me to visit Trafalgar Square and then getting the tube from here home.
Any information to satisfy my curiosity would be most welcome.

As I'm sure half a dozen other people have already explained, it was
subsumed into Charing Cross Station when the original Jubilee Line was
opened in 1977. Two different stations were brought together -
Trafalgar Square on the Bakerloo, and Strand on the Northern line,
linked by the Jubilee Line in the middle and called Charing Cross. Now,
of course, the Jubilee Line no longer calls there, and while interchange
between the two lines is possible, it's not really practicable, and
better done at Embankment or even Waterloo.
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Barry Salter wrote:

Apart from via the platforms, the two Booking Halls (and, indeed, the
stations) are not linked. In fact, with the closure of the Jubilee Line
platforms, there's probably a good case for closing off the subway
linking the two and going back to calling the Bakerloo Line platforms
Trafalgar Square.


I can see the logic in going back to calling the Bakerloo Line platforms
Trafalgar Square, but not in closing off the subway linking the two.
Apart from the safety benefits of having a link, it's a lot more
convenient for the passengers going to Charing Cross to catch a train.
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:40:46 +0100, Annabel Smyth
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 at 08:32:12, simon
wrote:

Hi everyone.

I've been reading the latest edition of London's Underground. Having
known nothing of the capital's tube system, it has been a very good
read. One thing puzzles me though - on an old map in the book there is
marked Trafalgar Square station, I think, on the Bakerloo. On modern
maps, this station no longer exists. Strangely, in an appendix listing
service dates of disused/abandoned stations, it isn't mentioned. I may
be mistaken, but in the mid-60's, I vaguely remember my parents taking
me to visit Trafalgar Square and then getting the tube from here home.
Any information to satisfy my curiosity would be most welcome.

As I'm sure half a dozen other people have already explained, it was
subsumed into Charing Cross Station when the original Jubilee Line was
opened in 1977. Two different stations were brought together -
Trafalgar Square on the Bakerloo, and Strand on the Northern line,
linked by the Jubilee Line in the middle and called Charing Cross. Now,
of course, the Jubilee Line no longer calls there, and while interchange
between the two lines is possible, it's not really practicable, and
better done at Embankment or even Waterloo.


For what it's worth, changing at Embankment does seem to involve a
slightly longer walk.
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