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Jesus, when will this horribly boring, completely unfunny song go away?

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Jesus, when will this horribly boring, completely unfunny song go away?


When it ceases being accurate?
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http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/

Jesus, when will this horribly boring, completely unfunny song go away?


When it ceases being accurate?


Accurate about what, the reality or people's prejudices?


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Keep posting it as it really ****es off the trainspotters.

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC), Brimstone
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On 9 Feb 2005 19:46:37 GMT, Robin May
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wrote the following in:


http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/

Jesus, when will this horribly boring, completely unfunny song go away?


When it ceases being accurate?


Accurate about what, the reality or people's prejudices?


Well, I get assaulted by the smells of Burger King and **** and sweat just
about every day on my tube travels, often together. "Every subway has a
****ing tramp" would have been a better line than "platform", I admit.

And if the travelling public are prejudiced against the tube drivers for
their frequent strikes and threatened strikes, that's the drivers' fault,
not the public's.


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James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC), Brimstone
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On 9 Feb 2005 19:46:37 GMT, Robin May
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wrote the following in:


http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/

Jesus, when will this horribly boring, completely unfunny song go
away?

When it ceases being accurate?


Accurate about what, the reality or people's prejudices?


Well, I get assaulted by the smells of Burger King and **** and sweat
just about every day on my tube travels, often together. "Every
subway has a ****ing tramp" would have been a better line than
"platform", I admit.


That's down to the lack of consideration by your fellow travellers, the
staff get just as fed up with it as you do. Imagine, you've just had your
meal break and you've got another four and a half hours to do with no chance
of getting off the train when someone comes and sits immediately behind the
cab with a bag of fish and chips (or whatever).


And if the travelling public are prejudiced against the tube drivers
for their frequent strikes and threatened strikes, that's the
drivers' fault, not the public's.


Don't forget it two to tango, people don't go on strike for the fun of it.
Whatever the reason published in the media, it's usually the culmination of
a series of events. BTW, it's not always the drivers who are on or
threatening strike, that's simply the slant that the idle tabloid
journalists put on it.


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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:34:59 +0000 (UTC), Brimstone
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James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC), Brimstone
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"James Farrar" wrote in message
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On 9 Feb 2005 19:46:37 GMT, Robin May
wrote:

wrote the following in:


http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/

Jesus, when will this horribly boring, completely unfunny song go
away?

When it ceases being accurate?

Accurate about what, the reality or people's prejudices?


Well, I get assaulted by the smells of Burger King and **** and sweat
just about every day on my tube travels, often together. "Every
subway has a ****ing tramp" would have been a better line than
"platform", I admit.


That's down to the lack of consideration by your fellow travellers, the
staff get just as fed up with it as you do.


Thank you for agreeing that it's accurate!

And if the travelling public are prejudiced against the tube drivers
for their frequent strikes and threatened strikes, that's the
drivers' fault, not the public's.


Don't forget it two to tango, people don't go on strike for the fun of
it.


No, they go on strike because the union leadership feels it hasn't been in
the media recently.

I haven't heard anything from Bob Crow lately; I'm starting to get worried.

Whatever the reason published in the media, it's usually the culmination
of a series of events. BTW, it's not always the drivers who are on or
threatening strike, that's simply the slant that the idle tabloid
journalists put on it.


No, but it's the drivers' strikes that tend to cause the greatest
disruption.
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James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:34:59 +0000 (UTC), Brimstone
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James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC), Brimstone
wrote:


"James Farrar" wrote in message
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On 9 Feb 2005 19:46:37 GMT, Robin May
wrote:

wrote the following in:


http://www.backingblair.co.uk/london_underground/

Jesus, when will this horribly boring, completely unfunny song go
away?

When it ceases being accurate?

Accurate about what, the reality or people's prejudices?

Well, I get assaulted by the smells of Burger King and **** and
sweat just about every day on my tube travels, often together.
"Every subway has a ****ing tramp" would have been a better line than
"platform", I admit.


That's down to the lack of consideration by your fellow travellers,
the staff get just as fed up with it as you do.


Thank you for agreeing that it's accurate!

And if the travelling public are prejudiced against the tube drivers
for their frequent strikes and threatened strikes, that's the
drivers' fault, not the public's.


Don't forget it two to tango, people don't go on strike for the fun
of it.


No, they go on strike because the union leadership feels it hasn't
been in the media recently.

I haven't heard anything from Bob Crow lately; I'm starting to get
worried.
Whatever the reason published in the media, it's usually the
culmination of a series of events. BTW, it's not always the drivers
who are on or threatening strike, that's simply the slant that the
idle tabloid journalists put on it.


No, but it's the drivers' strikes that tend to cause the greatest
disruption.


Not so, signallers and station staff would also cause the system to shut
down.

As long as management by fear and intimidation is the preferred method then
staff of whatever grade will be less inclined to suffer unreasonable
treatment. Excepting the odd few malcontents that occur in any large
workforce the vast majority of LU staff go to work intent on doing the best
job they can. (The good people would be just as happy as you and anyone else
to see the malcontents pushed out, btw, "malcontents" isn't the term used to
describe them, terms in common use are not repeatable in a family orientated
newsgroup).

Aiming jibes at the frontline staff is cheap, unfair and above all
inaccurate. Try lifting your gaze to the powers that be, starting with the
politicians and the entrenched attitude that prevails in the country as a
whole to public transport.

If you've a mind to read, find a copy of Paul Garbutt's book "London
Transport and the Politicians". It's been out of print for some while but
you might find a second hand copy. You could also try Christian Wolmar's
latest, "The Subterranean Railway"


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And if the travelling public are prejudiced against
the tube drivers for their frequent strikes and
threatened strikes, that's the
drivers' fault, not the public's.


Don't forget it two to tango


Indeed, which is why it only takes one to cease tangoing.

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James Farrar wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 10 Feb 2005:

Well, I get assaulted by the smells of Burger King and **** and sweat
just about every day on my tube travels, often together. "Every subway
has a ****ing tramp" would have been a better line than "platform", I
admit.

Actually, I've never seen a tramp ****ing on either subway or platform -
they're usually fast asleep.
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