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On 10 Mar, 12:52, Mike Roberts wrote:
wrote: On 9 Mar, 23:23, (Neil Williams) wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:22:08 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: The equivalent test for extending a Travelcard, is discovering if any ToCs don't accept them. I think the answer is "only GatEx are that petty", but maybe others can confirm. Careful - I am almost certain that BZ6 tickets are *not* valid on Virgin trains. *I suspect this extends to other IC TOCs as well. *It's to do with different accounting - an outboundary MKC to R1256 is priced based on the idea that most people will do MKC-EUS on Virgin then just use the Travelcard around London, whereas in the other direction it can't work like that because the Travelcard is already purchased. * I am no expert - does the following help? The Freedom Pass site makes the following statement. Quote The freedom pass is NOT valid for travel on train services operated by Arriva CrossCountry, Grand Central, Hull Trains, East Midlands Trains, Gatwick Express, National Express East Coast, Virgin Trains and Heathrow Express, or on Heathrow Connect between Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow. Unquote I think that this rule is identical to the one that at least used to be applied to travelcards. The Heathrow branch is a special case, but non of the others allow a complete journey within the London Zones and therefore cannot be used for travel with a London Zones only ticket. But out of boundary travel cards are available on NXEC, EMT and Virgin (at a higher price for NXEC and Virgin as the ex Network South East operators on these lines have tickets valid for their own services only). The question isn't whether a travelcard can be used on its own, but whether it can be used in conjuction with a Boundary Zone X - wherever ticket. I've certainly used these for BZ6 - Peterborough (on NXEC) and BZ6 - Milton Keynes (on Virgin), I think I've done BZ6 - Bedford as well, but that would have been a while ago. The rules for Freedom Passes are different, as they are a local authority based product, not a National Rail / TfL based one. |
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In message , at 12:52:34 on
Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Mike Roberts remarked: Careful - I am almost certain that BZ6 tickets are *not* valid on Virgin trains. I am no expert - does the following help? The Freedom Pass site makes the following statement. Quote The freedom pass is NOT valid for travel on train services operated by Arriva CrossCountry, Grand Central, Hull Trains, East Midlands Trains, Gatwick Express, National Express East Coast, Virgin Trains and Heathrow Express, or on Heathrow Connect between Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow. I think that this rule is identical to the one that at least used to be applied to travelcards. You can get a Travelcard from EMT for stations Kettering and further south, so they aren't a "travelcard free zone". -- Roland Perry |
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On Mar 10, 12:52*pm, Mike Roberts wrote:
wrote: On 9 Mar, 23:23, (Neil Williams) wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:22:08 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: The equivalent test for extending a Travelcard, is discovering if any ToCs don't accept them. I think the answer is "only GatEx are that petty", but maybe others can confirm. Careful - I am almost certain that BZ6 tickets are *not* valid on Virgin trains. *I suspect this extends to other IC TOCs as well. *It's to do with different accounting - an outboundary MKC to R1256 is priced based on the idea that most people will do MKC-EUS on Virgin then just use the Travelcard around London, whereas in the other direction it can't work like that because the Travelcard is already purchased. * I am no expert - does the following help? The Freedom Pass site makes the following statement. Quote The freedom pass is NOT valid for travel on train services operated by Arriva CrossCountry, Grand Central, Hull Trains, East Midlands Trains, Gatwick Express, National Express East Coast, Virgin Trains and Heathrow Express, or on Heathrow Connect between Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow. Unquote I think that this rule is identical to the one that at least used to be applied to travelcards. The Heathrow branch is a special case, but non of the others allow a complete journey within the London Zones and therefore cannot be used for travel with a London Zones only ticket. Interesting that they mention Gatwick Express. It's either no longer true or else it's train-specific, rather than operator. |
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