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Oyster PAYG on National Rail
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The DLR machine I tried at Langdon Park last month similarly didn't offer OEPs; instead you could get a paper extension. I've not tried Overground but will look at Wanstead Park when I next pass there - the GOBLIN *does* have a need for OEP availability because a passenger may want to travel onwards from Barking. I couldn't find them on the Wanstead Park machine today. |
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Oyster PAYG on National Rail
On Feb 21, 3:09*pm, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll- wrote: Mizter T wrote: [1] *Somewhat bizarrely the London Overground Shere TVMs I checked in the past week didn't appear to be configured to issue OEPs though. (And yes, I know there's no requirement to use OEPs when making 'extension journeys' on LO, but I'm pretty sure I read some blurb somewhere that said all TfL outlets inc. LO ticket machines could set and remove OEPs.) The DLR machine I tried at Langdon Park last month similarly didn't offer OEPs; instead you could get a paper extension. I've not tried Overground but will look at Wanstead Park when I next pass there - the GOBLIN *does* have a need for OEP availability because a passenger may want to travel onwards from Barking. Yes, sorry I completely overlooked the DLR - as you say the new TVMs (the ones that look a bit like arcade machines), which are Shere models I think, aren't currently configured to issue OEPs - otherwise they 'do' Oyster though. LO has a mix of Shere and S&B machines (the latter a legacy from Silverlink), neither of which I think issue OEPs - given that the Shere TVMs can issue them elsewhere I'm not sure why they haven't been configured to on LO (apart from the fact that they're not needed for LO journeys). So not quite the comprehensive coverage on the TfL outlet front that I'm sure I've read being claimed somewhere (though maybe it was just a comment on here!). I suppose I should add that Tramlink TVMs don't issue OEPs, but then again they don't 'do' Oyster whatsoever either. |
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On Feb 22, 2:33*am, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll- wrote: Mizter T wrote: Bank or London Bridge, doesn't make any difference so long as the OEP is on the card before the NR part of the journey. (And no, I don't think loading an OEP onto the card mid-journey at London Bridge would make any difference to the whole journey being treated and charged as an LU+NR through journey.) I assume though that at London Bridge anyone adding an OEP has to go out of the barriers though? What about at a station like Stratford where there are machines inside the barrier line, on the Jubilee side of the concourse. Can one add an OEP and then use the platform readers to register it mid journey or do they have to go out of the station? At LB the ticket machines are all outside the barriers/ paid-for area, yes (and like all termini stations there's no in-barrier interchange route between LU and NR stations, apart from the arrangement at Paddington to reach the H&C/Circle platforms). Anyway, good question, dunno if it'd be possible - whilst I reckon it would probably be possible to add an OEP to a card that had an open journey, I don't think it would have any effect in terms of switching on the 'entry charge' system when mid-journey - any touch on the validators *within* the gated is ambiguous when a card with an open journey is presented, and is treated as if the journey may have ended (transfer to a paper ticket) or the journey may be continuing (so just an interchange). Anyway at Stratford I don't think any of the TVMs within the gated area is capable of issuing an OEP, they're all NXEA ones aren't they, which are S&B TVMs? At the ungated Finsbury Park station there are both FCC Shere TVMs and Tube TVMs that can issue OEPs, so that's one place where one could experiment with trying to add an OEP mid-journey. Even if the 'entry charge' was not deducted if an OEP was added mid- journey, if the OEP flag was set then it should satisfy any RPI who inspected the card. |
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