On 20 Apr, 09:41, Pat Ricroft wrote:
On 19 Apr, 22:50, "Paul Scott" wrote:

"Graham Harrison" wrote in message

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If trains on the national network need yellow front panels why doesn't the
same apply to LUL?

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally allow
maintenance staff access to the live railway.

You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels...

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

Clarification, anyone?

Andy

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:51:01 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be Andy
Elms wrote this:-

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

Unless it was one of the changes made around the time of
privatisation, no. However, it may have been one of the changes at
privatisation.



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"David Hansen" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:51:01 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be Andy
Elms wrote this:-

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

Unless it was one of the changes made around the time of
privatisation, no. However, it may have been one of the changes at
privatisation.

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,

Peter

On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter Masson" wrote:
AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be
resignalled).

PhilD

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD
wrote this:-

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR

That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction
power too. No idea about the other bits.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:59:48 +0100, David Hansen
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD
wrote this:-

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR

That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction
power too. No idea about the other bits.
?
IIRC the Wimbledon branch was transferred to LU on the same day as the
Drain.

On 20/04/2010 13:41, PhilD wrote:
On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter wrote:
AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow& Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be
resignalled).

PhilD

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NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.

On Apr 20, 9:54*pm, "
wrote:
NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.

There's a couple of odd-hours Waterloo-Wimbledon (and beyond, and vice
versa) services routed via Point Pleasant Junction/East Putney. The
line is also used for ECS moves, diversionary moves, and for access to/
from Wimbledon depot.

PhilD

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"Andy Elms" wrote in message
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On 20 Apr, 09:41, Pat Ricroft wrote:

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

The current Quail map shows the LU/NR boundary at the west end of the Queens
Park sheds - basically where the Bakerloo trains join the London Overground
route. I don't think there have been any recent changes at all.

Paul S