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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:51:01 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be Andy
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So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?


IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.


Unless it was one of the changes made around the time of
privatisation, no. However, it may have been one of the changes at
privatisation.

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,

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On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter Masson" wrote:
AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,



As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be
resignalled).

PhilD

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD
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AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,



As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR


That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction
power too. No idea about the other bits.


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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:59:48 +0100, David Hansen
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD
wrote this:-

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,



As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR


That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction
power too. No idea about the other bits.

?
IIRC the Wimbledon branch was transferred to LU on the same day as the
Drain.
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"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
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IIRC the Wimbledon branch was transferred to LU on the same day as the
Drain.


I'd suggest ownership is basically all that was transferred. The power
supplies and signalling are still effectively 'subcontracted' to NR. I
mentioned a few days ago that there is a project underway to separate the
power supplies to allow the NR voltage to be increased, and regenerative
braking to be enabled. You'd have to assume SSR resignalling might take the
signalling inhouse as well, eventually.

Paul S




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On 20/04/2010 13:41, PhilD wrote:
On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter wrote:
AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow& Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,



As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be
resignalled).

PhilD

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NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.
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On Apr 20, 9:54*pm, "
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NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.


There's a couple of odd-hours Waterloo-Wimbledon (and beyond, and vice
versa) services routed via Point Pleasant Junction/East Putney. The
line is also used for ECS moves, diversionary moves, and for access to/
from Wimbledon depot.

PhilD

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PhilD wrote:
On Apr 20, 9:54 pm, "
wrote:
NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't
they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.


There's a couple of odd-hours Waterloo-Wimbledon (and beyond, and vice
versa) services routed via Point Pleasant Junction/East Putney. The
line is also used for ECS moves, diversionary moves, and for access
to/ from Wimbledon depot.


AFAICT there are 3 passenger services, and about 10 ECS moves in the
diagrams for a normal weekday, which is more than I expected. I think there
are 4 or 5 down direction ECS moves after the morning peak, so I imagine
daytime travellers on the District will be familiar with the main line
trains passing through.

Passenger services for those interested:
0454 Basingstoke to Waterloo
0042 (FX) Waterloo to Strawberry Hill
0105 Waterloo to Southampton

Paul S


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