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Old May 24th 10, 11:41 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
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On 24 May, 13:36, MIG wrote:

Is it just my screen, or is the whole map invisible apart from the
closed bits?


It's a very light shade of grey - could do with being made slightly
darker IMO.

The other thing they need to do is to design their website correctly
such that it is not fixed-width, particularly given the tendency
towards widescreen displays these days.

Neil
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On 24/05/2010 12:41, Neil Williams wrote:
On 24 May, 13:36, wrote:

Is it just my screen, or is the whole map invisible apart from the
closed bits?


It's a very light shade of grey - could do with being made slightly
darker IMO.


Actually, the bulk of the map could be made normal colours, while the
trouble bits flash on and off, although that would not work for the
printed version which is posted at stations.
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On May 24, 1:25*pm, Basil Jet wrote:

On 24/05/2010 12:41, Neil Williams wrote:

On 24 May, 13:36, *wrote:


Is it just my screen, or is the whole map invisible apart from the
closed bits?


It's a very light shade of grey - could do with being made slightly
darker IMO.


Actually, the bulk of the map could be made normal colours, while the
trouble bits flash on and off, although that would not work for the
printed version which is posted at stations.


Excellent - just like the web circa 1997!

Re the posters - that's a nit unambitious - what's electronic ink for
if not this?
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On 24/05/2010 13:37, Mister T wrote:

On May 24, 1:25 pm, Basil wrote:

On 24/05/2010 12:41, Neil Williams wrote:

On 24 May, 13:36, wrote:


Is it just my screen, or is the whole map invisible apart from the
closed bits?


It's a very light shade of grey - could do with being made slightly
darker IMO.


Actually, the bulk of the map could be made normal colours, while the
trouble bits flash on and off, although that would not work for the
printed version which is posted at stations.


Excellent - just like the web circa 1997!

Re the posters - that's a nit unambitious - what's electronic ink for
if not this?


It's for black and white things, AFAIK.
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On Mon, 24 May 2010 04:41:52 -0700 (PDT), Neil Williams
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On 24 May, 13:36, MIG wrote:

Is it just my screen, or is the whole map invisible apart from the
closed bits?


It's a very light shade of grey - could do with being made slightly
darker IMO.

The other thing they need to do is to design their website correctly
such that it is not fixed-width, particularly given the tendency
towards widescreen displays these days.

Neil


I have been faced with the screen width problem very recently due to
my monitor giving up suddenly. Obtaining a 1024x768 minitor is almost
impossible and many of the widescreen ones have a very limited height.
It also made me look at my website through semi-widescreen eyes and
getting others on photographic ngs to give me feed back.
My pages had no constraints on width so that some of the text became
one exceedingly long line, or two very long lines. They look awful.
Also relationship between pictures and text was sometimes destroyed.
I noticed that many professional websites, including the BBC,
constrain at least part of the site to 1024x768 proportions. ebay
does the same for heading pages but then lets them float further down
the pages.
Another problem was that some of my pages have thumbnails which lead
to full-screen images - full screen on 1024x768. On a widescreen
monitor, the image is much reduced in size and appears top left!
As if it isn't hard enough to make your site look good on IE (which
does not conform to industry standards) and other better browsers!
I have done quite a lot of work on my site because of these problems,
but it is very difficult to determine how successfully.
FWIW my new monitor is 1280x1024.

Guy Gorton


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On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:42:03 +0100, Guy Gorton wrote:

I have done quite a lot of work on my site because of these problems,
but it is very difficult to determine how successfully.


http://www.google.com/search?q=css+layout

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On Mon, 24 May 2010 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC), Alex Potter
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On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:42:03 +0100, Guy Gorton wrote:

I have done quite a lot of work on my site because of these problems,
but it is very difficult to determine how successfully.


http://www.google.com/search?q=css+layout

HTH


Thanks for that, and I will look into it.! Trouble is that I started
this website creation thing with absolutely no knowledge of any
suitable language, and just used the Netscape WYSIWYG generator.
Reasonably successful, but the Netscape generator disappeared so I now
use Seamonkey in the same way but increasingly often I am forced to
get down into detail code.
I see tables are not the way to go - some of my pages are now a
one-col one-row table which allows me to constrain them, but hopefully
I can find a better way.
Thanks again.

Guy Gorton
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On Mon, 24 May 2010 17:25:01 +0100, Guy Gorton wrote:

Thanks for that, and I will look into it.! Trouble is that I started
this website creation thing with absolutely no knowledge of any suitable
language, and just used the Netscape WYSIWYG generator. Reasonably
successful, but the Netscape generator disappeared so I now use
Seamonkey in the same way but increasingly often I am forced to get down
into detail code.
I see tables are not the way to go - some of my pages are now a one-col
one-row table which allows me to constrain them, but hopefully I can
find a better way.
Thanks again.


You're welcome. Once you get your head around it it becomes
quite simple^W^W simpler.

The W3C validators are useful tools too.

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On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 04:41:52AM -0700, Neil Williams wrote:
On 24 May, 13:36, MIG wrote:
Is it just my screen, or is the whole map invisible apart from the
closed bits?

It's a very light shade of grey - could do with being made slightly
darker IMO.


Surely it would be better to grey out the bits that *aren't* working!

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On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 04:41:52AM -0700, Neil Williams wrote:
On 24 May, 13:36, MIG wrote:
Is it just my screen, or is the whole map invisible apart from the
closed bits?

It's a very light shade of grey - could do with being made slightly
darker IMO.


Surely it would be better to grey out the bits that *aren't* working!


The whole point of the map is to draw attention to the bits that aren't
working. That way, you can quickly spot if your proposed journey is
likely to be affected.




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