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[email protected] June 6th 10 06:11 PM

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
03:46:27 on Sat, 5 Jun 2010,
remarked:
They haven't got any money for any other means of traction, nor the
oil supplies!

Who is "they"?


Second time: Who is "they".

Of course Notwork Rail don't have to find the traction.

But ToCs can finds "the oil" pretty easily. It's down at around 2%
of the country's total petroleum product usage.

And unless the govt agrees to build a lot more nuclear power plants
real soon, then the electricity industry will continue to use about
40% of our fossil fuel allowance.


You are overlooking the argument used to stop the DMUP orders.


Probably, as that's geek-speak I don't recognise.

Please explain what it is and how it applies.


It's been explained to you here already. ROSCOs won't buy DMUs.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry June 7th 10 06:51 AM

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 
In message , at 13:11:54
on Sun, 6 Jun 2010, remarked:
They haven't got any money for any other means of traction, nor the
oil supplies!

Who is "they"?


Second time: Who is "they".


Third time: Who is "they"?

Of course Notwork Rail don't have to find the traction.

But ToCs can finds "the oil" pretty easily. It's down at around 2%
of the country's total petroleum product usage.

And unless the govt agrees to build a lot more nuclear power plants
real soon, then the electricity industry will continue to use about
40% of our fossil fuel allowance.

You are overlooking the argument used to stop the DMUP orders.


Probably, as that's geek-speak I don't recognise.

Please explain what it is and how it applies.


It's been explained to you here already. ROSCOs won't buy DMUs.


I can't get "ROSKO" into the ETLA you mentioned. But yes, I have heard
that under the previous government's policies the ROSKOs weren't happy
about the projected lifespan of new DMUs, and would therefore be
reluctant to acquire any new ones.

However, we have a different government now, new policy, electrification
cancelled, new electric traction at best postponed. Put those together,
and maybe they'll change their view - or maybe they'll be nationalised,
anything might happen.
--
Roland Perry

Recliner[_2_] June 7th 10 12:21 PM

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 
"Roland Perry" wrote in message

In message , at
13:11:54 on Sun, 6 Jun 2010, remarked:
They haven't got any money for any other means of traction, nor
the oil supplies!

Who is "they"?

Second time: Who is "they".


Third time: Who is "they"?

Of course Notwork Rail don't have to find the traction.

But ToCs can finds "the oil" pretty easily. It's down at around 2%
of the country's total petroleum product usage.

And unless the govt agrees to build a lot more nuclear power
plants real soon, then the electricity industry will continue to
use about 40% of our fossil fuel allowance.

You are overlooking the argument used to stop the DMUP orders.

Probably, as that's geek-speak I don't recognise.

Please explain what it is and how it applies.


It's been explained to you here already. ROSCOs won't buy DMUs.


I can't get "ROSKO" into the ETLA you mentioned. But yes, I have heard
that under the previous government's policies the ROSKOs weren't happy
about the projected lifespan of new DMUs, and would therefore be
reluctant to acquire any new ones.

However, we have a different government now, new policy,
electrification cancelled, new electric traction at best postponed.
Put those together, and maybe they'll change their view - or maybe
they'll be nationalised, anything might happen.


I don't think anything has actually been cancelled yet, just that
spending decisions for the current year are being re-evaluated (and not
just for rail orders). A few may go ahead in the near future, others may
be delayed for more than a year, and some will be cancelled altogether.

But I think it's highly unlikely that any ROSCOs will be nationalised!



Roland Perry June 7th 10 12:57 PM

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 
In message , at 13:21:59 on
Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Recliner remarked:
However, we have a different government now, new policy,
electrification cancelled, new electric traction at best postponed.
Put those together, and maybe they'll change their view - or maybe
they'll be nationalised, anything might happen.


I don't think anything has actually been cancelled yet,


I've been away, but was under the impression that the ambitious
electrification schemes had been. And the "intention to place new
rolling stock orders soon" has also been cancelled.

just that spending decisions for the current year are being
re-evaluated (and not just for rail orders). A few may go ahead in the
near future, others may be delayed for more than a year, and some will
be cancelled altogether.

But I think it's highly unlikely that any ROSCOs will be nationalised!


DaFT had a plan for a nationalised ROSCO. And if the current government
falls in maybe 3-4 years time and old-Lab get back in...
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] June 7th 10 03:09 PM

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

But I think it's highly unlikely that any ROSCOs will be

nationalised!

DaFT had a plan for a nationalised ROSCO. And if the current
government falls in maybe 3-4 years time and old-Lab get back in...


Dream on! If they didn;t manage it in 13 years...

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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