Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

I understand that yesterday evening (2 June) there was some sort of
OHLE/pantograph problem between Camden Road and Kentish Town West which
resulted, so I'm told, in the whole of the NLL service being suspended,
as well as the WLL north of Shepherds Bush.

Can anyone throw any light on what actually happened? Also, why
couldn't they at least run NLL/WLL services west and from Willesden
Junction?

Possibly my informant was misled by the Live Travel News on the TfL
site. Due to a signal failure today at Norwood Junction (ELL), it
currently shows the entire London Overground network as affected by
severe delays: ELL/NLL/WLL/DC!
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

On Jun 3, 5:34*pm, "Richard J." wrote:
I understand that yesterday evening (2 June) there was some sort of
OHLE/pantograph problem between Camden Road and Kentish Town West which
resulted, so I'm told, in the whole of the NLL service being suspended,
as well as the WLL north of Shepherds Bush.

Can anyone throw any light on what actually happened? *Also, why
couldn't they at least run NLL/WLL services west and from Willesden
Junction?

Possibly my informant was misled by the Live Travel News on the TfL
site. *Due to a signal failure today at Norwood Junction (ELL), it
currently shows the entire London Overground network as affected by
severe delays: ELL/NLL/WLL/DC!

There is a post on "District Dave's" board that suggests the
widespread loss of service was the result of the initial power
isolations. Once breakers were used service was restored west of
Willesden Junction. It seems a Class 66 was used to tow out stranded
378s on the section that had no power.

I also note with some surprise that a signal failure at Norwood
Junction apparently now has the power to affect the Goblin and the
Euston - Watford service. Methinks the people updating the map haven't
quite got the hang of how the Overground network fits together or the
info they are receiving is less than clear - take your pick!

--
Paul C
via Google.

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
Paul Corfield wrote:
There is a post on "District Dave's" board that suggests the
widespread loss of service was the result of the initial power
isolations. Once breakers were used service was restored west of
Willesden Junction. It seems a Class 66 was used to tow out stranded
378s on the section that had no power.

Perhaps they should have left the 3rd rail down so they could switch to
that in this sort of situation... no , too sensible.

B2003

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

Paul Corfield wrote on 03 June 2010 19:43:34 ...
On Jun 3, 5:34 pm, "Richard wrote:
I understand that yesterday evening (2 June) there was some sort of
OHLE/pantograph problem between Camden Road and Kentish Town West which
resulted, so I'm told, in the whole of the NLL service being suspended,
as well as the WLL north of Shepherds Bush.

Can anyone throw any light on what actually happened? Also, why
couldn't they at least run NLL/WLL services west and from Willesden
Junction?

Possibly my informant was misled by the Live Travel News on the TfL
site. Due to a signal failure today at Norwood Junction (ELL), it
currently shows the entire London Overground network as affected by
severe delays: ELL/NLL/WLL/DC!

There is a post on "District Dave's" board that suggests the
widespread loss of service was the result of the initial power
isolations. Once breakers were used service was restored west of
Willesden Junction. It seems a Class 66 was used to tow out stranded
378s on the section that had no power.

I also note with some surprise that a signal failure at Norwood
Junction apparently now has the power to affect the Goblin and the
Euston - Watford service. Methinks the people updating the map haven't
quite got the hang of how the Overground network fits together or the
info they are receiving is less than clear - take your pick!

It's not going well on LO this week. We have another "overhead line
problem" at Camden Road tonight.

This time they seem to be better prepared, with the NLL at least running
from Richmond to Gospel Oak. And also, interestingly in view of recent
discussions here on another thread, TfL say that "a special service is
operating between Queens Park and Stratford every 30 minutes".
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

In article %aeOn.33767$jh6.21404@hurricane,
(Richard J.) wrote:

It's not going well on LO this week. We have another "overhead
line problem" at Camden Road tonight.

Not just the NLL. The GN had a power supply problem at Potters Bar. We
came home on the 15:45 to Lynn via the Hertford Loop. 40 minutes late at
Cambridge.

Nothing at all on their or the National Rail web sites now.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

In message , at 16:56:01
on Fri, 4 Jun 2010, remarked:
It's not going well on LO this week. We have another "overhead
line problem" at Camden Road tonight.

Not just the NLL. The GN had a power supply problem at Potters Bar. We
came home on the 15:45 to Lynn via the Hertford Loop. 40 minutes late at
Cambridge.

Maybe it's a good idea that Network Rail is apparently having second
thoughts about extending electrification to more lines.
--
Roland Perry

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
16:56:01 on Fri, 4 Jun 2010, remarked:
It's not going well on LO this week. We have another "overhead
line problem" at Camden Road tonight.

Not just the NLL. The GN had a power supply problem at Potters Bar. We
came home on the 15:45 to Lynn via the Hertford Loop. 40 minutes late
at Cambridge.

Maybe it's a good idea that Network Rail is apparently having
second thoughts about extending electrification to more lines.

They haven't got any money for any other means of traction, nor the oil
supplies! Of course Notwork Rail don't have to find the traction.

Another baleful effect of the fragmented state of our railways. :-(

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

In message , at 18:52:10
on Fri, 4 Jun 2010, remarked:
It's not going well on LO this week. We have another "overhead
line problem" at Camden Road tonight.

Not just the NLL. The GN had a power supply problem at Potters Bar. We
came home on the 15:45 to Lynn via the Hertford Loop. 40 minutes late
at Cambridge.

Maybe it's a good idea that Network Rail is apparently having
second thoughts about extending electrification to more lines.

They haven't got any money for any other means of traction, nor the oil
supplies!

Who is "they"?

Of course Notwork Rail don't have to find the traction.

But ToCs can finds "the oil" pretty easily. It's down at around 2% of
the country's total petroleum product usage.

And unless the govt agrees to build a lot more nuclear power plants real
soon, then the electricity industry will continue to use about 40% of
our fossil fuel allowance.
--
Roland Perry

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
18:52:10 on Fri, 4 Jun 2010, remarked:
It's not going well on LO this week. We have another "overhead
line problem" at Camden Road tonight.

Not just the NLL. The GN had a power supply problem at Potters Bar.
We came home on the 15:45 to Lynn via the Hertford Loop. 40 minutes
late at Cambridge.

Maybe it's a good idea that Network Rail is apparently having
second thoughts about extending electrification to more lines.

They haven't got any money for any other means of traction, nor the
oil supplies!

Who is "they"?

Of course Notwork Rail don't have to find the traction.

But ToCs can finds "the oil" pretty easily. It's down at around 2%
of the country's total petroleum product usage.

And unless the govt agrees to build a lot more nuclear power plants
real soon, then the electricity industry will continue to use about
40% of our fossil fuel allowance.

You are overlooking the argument used to stop the DMUP orders.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Wires or pantograph down on NLL, 2 June 2010
 

In message , at 03:46:27
on Sat, 5 Jun 2010, remarked:
They haven't got any money for any other means of traction, nor the
oil supplies!

Who is "they"?

Second time: Who is "they".

Of course Notwork Rail don't have to find the traction.

But ToCs can finds "the oil" pretty easily. It's down at around 2%
of the country's total petroleum product usage.

And unless the govt agrees to build a lot more nuclear power plants
real soon, then the electricity industry will continue to use about
40% of our fossil fuel allowance.

You are overlooking the argument used to stop the DMUP orders.

Probably, as that's geek-speak I don't recognise.

Please explain what it is and how it applies.
--
Roland Perry