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On Jun 15, 11:10 am, "Paul Scott"
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...during his visit to Canary Wharf station site.

Hammond said: "The Government is committed to this project."
He added: "We have no plans to reduce its scope. We want this project to
be
delivered in its entirety," he said. But he added that the Government
wanted
to ensure that Crossrail was delivered "with maximum value for the
taxpayer".

Worth watching the whole of the BBC video included on the webpage, the
interviewer seems to cover most of the obvious questions ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10323035.stm

Thank you for posting. This pronouncement has me completely confused
as to the likely scope of Crossrail.

Maidenhead and Heathrow to Shenfield and Abbeywood, as per the enabling
Act, I'd have thought. Anywhere else, such as Reading, is just froth...

Extension to Reading will cost nothing once the station has been rebuilt and
GWR electrified

tim

On Jun 15, 8:57*pm, "tim...." wrote:
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"E27002" wrote in message
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On Jun 15, 11:10 am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
...during his visit to Canary Wharf station site.

Hammond said: "The Government is committed to this project."
He added: "We have no plans to reduce its scope. We want this project to
be
delivered in its entirety," he said. But he added that the Government
wanted
to ensure that Crossrail was delivered "with maximum value for the
taxpayer".

Worth watching the whole of the BBC video included on the webpage, the
interviewer seems to cover most of the obvious questions ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10323035.stm

Thank you for posting. *This pronouncement has me completely confused
as to the likely scope of Crossrail.

Maidenhead and Heathrow to Shenfield and Abbeywood, as per the enabling
Act, I'd have thought. *Anywhere else, such as Reading, is just froth....

Extension to Reading will cost nothing once the station has been rebuilt and
GWR electrified


Except for the extra Crossrail rolling stock needed to run the extra
twelve(ish) miles in each direction.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:
Except for the extra Crossrail rolling stock needed to run the extra
twelve(ish) miles in each direction.

Offset by the EMUs not required to run the normal local service. If
they have any sense the Crossrail tunnel will be full size and any
EMU will fit - one would hope.

Neil

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Neil Williams, Milton Keynes, UK

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:18:41 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

Offset by the EMUs not required to run the normal local service. If
they have any sense the Crossrail tunnel will be full size and any
EMU will fit - one would hope.

They could stick with the 165 DMUs on the Paddington to Reading
locals. It would be very short sighted as they will be 25 years old
when Crossrail opens but any replacement costs a few years later would
not count against the Crossrail budget.

On Jun 15, 11:18*pm, Neil Williams wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

Except for the extra Crossrail rolling stock needed to run the extra
twelve(ish) miles in each direction.

Offset by the EMUs not required to run the normal local service. If
they have any sense the Crossrail tunnel will be full size and any
EMU will fit - one would hope.


Except that I doubt Crossrail would want a mixed fleet running through
the central section, so extra Crossrail EMUs would need to be ordered;
remember that the planned signalling system is ERTMS (cheaper to fit
to units designed for it than to cascaded class 319s) and the stock is
likely to have larger doorways than existing EMUs to aid loading and
unloading in the central section.

On Jun 15, 11:18*pm, Neil Williams wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT), Andy
wrote:

Except for the extra Crossrail rolling stock needed to run the extra
twelve(ish) miles in each direction.

Offset by the EMUs not required to run the normal local service. If
they have any sense the Crossrail tunnel will be full size and any
EMU will fit - one would hope.

The Crossrail tunnels are going to be 'full size' - 6 metres in
diameter, with space for the OHLE too. However 'any old EMU' won't be
up to the job of a 24tph service in the core section - the trains will
be ATO in this bit, and they'll also need to be designed to cater for
the expected crowds (wide doors, suitable interior etc).

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote:
Except for the extra Crossrail rolling stock needed to run the extra
twelve(ish) miles in each direction.

Offset by the EMUs not required to run the normal local service. If they
have any sense the Crossrail tunnel will be full size and any EMU will
fit - one would hope.

It is full 'UK main line 'size - (best make that clear before people start
asking for double decker trains that won't fit any of the extensions over NR
or into Heathrow)...

Paul S

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:49:25 +0100
"Paul Scott" wrote:
It is full 'UK main line 'size - (best make that clear before people start
asking for double decker trains that won't fit any of the extensions over NR
or into Heathrow)...

There is always talk talk talk of increasing loading gauge , yet whenever
any new track is built or rebuilt its always to the UK loading gauge.
Talk about lack of foresight.

B2003

On 16 June, 11:01, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:49:25 +0100

"Paul Scott" wrote:
It is full 'UK main line 'size - (best make that clear before people start
asking for double decker trains that won't fit any of the extensions over NR
or into Heathrow)...

There is always talk talk talk of increasing loading gauge , yet whenever
any new track is built or rebuilt its always to the UK loading gauge.
Talk about lack of foresight.


The central London tunnels will be built to an increased loading
gauge. The planned running tunnel diameter of 6.2m is nearly as large
as the 6.3m RER tunnels in Paris and certainly big enough for most
continental stock.

Information about the tunnels is he

http://www.crossrail.co.uk/company/c...els-contracts1

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 04:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
Andy wrote:
The central London tunnels will be built to an increased loading
gauge. The planned running tunnel diameter of 6.2m is nearly as large
as the 6.3m RER tunnels in Paris and certainly big enough for most
continental stock.

Its nice to be proved wrong sometimes. Lets hope they don't just do something
silly like string up the catenary really low or put a load of trackside
furniture in that precludes UIC gauge trains in the future.

B2003